Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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There's an acceptable risk we take with any illness. The risk level, so far, hasn't been acceptable with COVID. But with each passing day, and each passing dose, that stage where it is acceptable gets nearer and nearer.
This is the most crucial point of this entire debate and can't be said enough. We're simply preparing to live with COVID in the same way as we live with the Flu every year - not to mention countless other illnesses in society.
 

Good news. People in care homes are probably the most vulnerable.

It would have been interesting if they mentioned the severity for those that caught it.

Also seems that the results were similar whether it was chilled gnats piss or supercooled gnats piss.

Shame the vaccines aren’t doing the heavy lifting.
 
You‘d better hope the vaccines do it....Barry Island in Wales today.....

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The shape of things to come.

And we ALL better hope the vaccines help.

Vault this: we'll be back in lockdown by the end of July.

It's going to take half a million dead in this country before the penny finally drops and behaviour modifies to avoid mega death.
 
The shape of things to come.

And we ALL better hope the vaccines help.

Vault this: we'll be back in lockdown by the end of July.

It's going to take half a million dead in this country before the penny finally drops and behaviour modifies to avoid mega death.

Were effectively in lockdown measures till June 21st anyway so it's a moot point.
 
The shape of things to come.

And we ALL better hope the vaccines help.

Vault this: we'll be back in lockdown by the end of July.

It's going to take half a million dead in this country before the penny finally drops and behaviour modifies to avoid mega death.

You should have guessed September/October for the next lockdown. Not a chance it happens in July.
 
The virus isn't going anywhere though and literally everybody everywhere in the world (bar you, it seems) wants to attempt to get back to something akin to what was 'normal' before.

Things have changed, we get that, but the whole point of vaccinating is to give us a massive step towards being able to do stuff like we used to be able to, even if not quite the same.

You don't have to do it, Dave. Sit in your house and get the first flight to Taiwan if you want.

There's an acceptable risk we take with any illness. The risk level, so far, hasn't been acceptable with COVID. But with each passing day, and each passing dose, that stage where it is acceptable gets nearer and nearer.

If nations on the continent had been quicker on their vaccine uptake, then they'd perhaps be seeing different results to what they are right now. Perhaps not, we'll never really know.

We're just going to have to see how the next 2 weeks go in the UK. The first 3 week stage is now over. Schools are off now, so those 'covid dens' or whatever they're described as are totally shut - for the first time actually since early January. Tomorrow we can meet in a group of six outside or go play golf or even organised sport. It's all tiny steps. But it's positive.
The naivety in this post is frightening.

You literally have no idea about how the vaccines will help the situation in the face of a full assault on people of another cretinous British summer of consumerism and "leisure" and old normal activity.

The vaccines aren't a panacea. How many times does that need repeating? Every single person in the scientific community is imploring us to exercise caution. The vaccines are meant to hand us the opportunity to get back some social contact and some freedom of movement, but not to return to mass shopping expeditions, beaches full of tools roaming about in packs; ale houses overflowing with bar flies; restaurants having customers in there for hour upon hour in close proximity with a window open for air circulation...etc etc.

This country cant do discipline. It's incapable. We see that every day now with the taking to the streets of one lot of belters after another demanding their freedom to get pissed and spew up in the gutter and circulate a virus.
 
I think you need to be a little less presumptious on what I think as it comes across as a bit condescending. Which I am sure isn't your intention.

I have really warmed to you over the years on here and recognise your views and respect them. However what I can't abide is your seemingly ever changing thesis.

First it was the vaccines won't do the heavy lifting. Then when it was proven that CMO said they will do the heavy lifting, you now say his words are open ended and insinuate open to interpretation.

When tasked with detailing how behavioural change is required and point to SE Asia including their behaviours such as test and trace, social distancing etc, its put to you they don't socially distance and then you caveat it by stating they don't need to because of test and trace. So already your prior point is redundant.

It's really frustrating tbh as it makes a mockery of the argument your putting forward and makes it difficult to engage in proper debate.
There's no shifting of goal posts. There WASN'T any real difference in what Whitty stated and what I did. "A lot of the heavy lifting" does not mean "All the heavy lifting". So what else - in this scenario - lifts heavily beyond the vaccines doing "a lot of" it? Whitty dosn't need to say it but he means that behavioural change and track and trace does the rest.

It's not sophistry, it's basic logic.
 
You should have guessed September/October for the next lockdown. Not a chance it happens in July.
We'll see. Surges will happen this summer. Vaccine or no vaccine. In fact, I think we'll see more infection this summer than last, because of the increased ability of the variants to transmit. We let that go to autumn without locking down again and we store up another catastrophe.

The brakes will go on again before the end of the summer.
 
April 12th. Beer gardens open. By May all of hospitality and retail will be in full swing.

Personally I believe they should bring the indoor opening of pubs forward to the 12th April otherwise you will have groups who are having a few pints in the outdoor garden then it gets a bit cold and they end up having a house party with very little social distancing etc. If the pubs open properly its a more controlled environment.
 
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