Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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NilSatisOptimum said:
Many countries will be able to do this because response in managing COVID was good always been good.

Numbers of death are falling like a brick in the UK, however, just defines how rampant COVID was before vaccine program here in the UK despite world beating this and that and the kitchen sink.
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Would love to go there as well as Oslo. The country was open to us last year until the Kent variant started.

Those counties on the Arctic Circle have all done well, but just because they are near the sea, but also because they have well run governments. Sweden didn’t lock down because of their constitution, so did well considering.
 
The murderer avoiding any blame for the catastrophe his inactions caused. 126,000 people dead, and most of them are dead because he made the wrong calls at huge moments in the crisis.

An utter 'kin slug.
 
Q: Why has the UK had one of the highest death rates?

A: Johnson says the pandemic is, alas, not over. So international comparisons are premature, he says.

He's hoping other nations see more Covid19 deaths just so he wont look like the utter 'kin disaster he is. A blood stained murderer with zero humanity.
 
Neiler said:
I agree with the first three paragraphs as the day has gone I've deconstructed it and that a fair analysis mate, we will wait for clarification in the next 48 hours. Its always AZ there is problem with though, maybe you are right and its a global conspiracy, maybe there is a conscious or unconscious bias, maybe there is some justification there in a less rigorous approach in competency - its all open to opinion really. Our opinions dont meet on them as a company.

My own opinion and i have no problem sharing it is, i dont think they are a very competent company for something required in this scale - or maybe the scale of what they have taken on is beyond them is fairer, thats based on a number of things and i think everyone knows the issue in initial research, dosing, regulation, manufacturing, and again other issues, they are well documented, it just seems errors are repetitive, avoidable and always AZ.

I honestly dont want my opinion on AZ confused with the vaccine, because its a wonderful one, i think its let down by working with AZ - you know my opinions on the genesis of that collaboration to and we wont agree on that either. But that's fine, i enjoy reading contradicting opinions and the one you posted yesterday as i said was very thought provoking.
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But do you think we will ever get out of this unless many other pharma companies follow AZs suit and produce their vaccines at cost or the less rich countries. Or at least to provide plants to produce Oxfords vaccine at cost. Until we vaccine the whole world we're going nowhere and we aren't going to do that when they're charging what they are at the moment.
 
TaffyToffee85 said:
Good news on currently infected people; it drops yet again to 468,362, IF Worldometer is using accurate and reliable sources.

www.worldometers.info

United Kingdom COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United Kingdom Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
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Asia has remarkable good outcomes, some exceptions... probably down to proper border control, timely and effective lock downs, not too liberal and concerned about Shia law through the back door with wearing of face mask, due to recent issues of Mers and Sars.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
But do you think we will ever get out of this unless many other pharma companies follow AZs suit and produce their vaccines at cost or the less rich countries. Or at least to provide plants to produce Oxfords vaccine at cost. Until we vaccine the whole world we're going nowhere and we aren't going to do that when they're charging what they are at the moment.
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Honestly what is going on in the west is self entitled mate, almost every western region will have triple if not quadruple over what they need and that's just in the first trauch of procurement. As i said i know the Oxford team are a great bunch and certainly those values are reflective in the AZ deal but that was always a red line on a deal being struck, but as you were saying above share price and prestige is a part of this with AZ as well, you know my opinion on why they were preferred partner and im not going to talk about it as its divisive. Its great that its at cost, i see Covax being the big distributor though and the west will get very aulteristic and good natured about sharing vaccine once we have fulfilled our own selfish needs.

I can see most big pharma, dropping prices once the west is taken care of to be honest, if a cold chain isnt involved, because they will cater to the biggest market in need and will adjust the margin to suit the deamnd, once thier is a margin. But id defo commend the ideals of the Oxford team.
 
davek said:
The murderer avoiding any blame for the catastrophe his inactions caused. 126,000 people dead, and most of them are dead because he made the wrong calls at huge moments in the crisis.

An utter 'kin slug.
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There will come a time to review what we did right and what we did wrong in all four nations of the U.K. Of course the key issue now is vaccinations, and I know you don’t like to hear how well we are doing in that respect.....
 
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