Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[TaffyToffee85]

Hospital numbers were 4,501 in England yesterday, an uptick of 9 from the day before all obviously caused by weekend lag reporting, which reflects in the 17 deaths yesterday being very low for a Monday, then today being 112 or two higher than this time last week, thus being an ongoing catch up in reporting lags.

This is even more so reflected in the drop in reported hospital discharges and admissions from yesterday, as it’s now dropped to 4,245 as of today. Monday having an uptick isn’t uncommon due to this lagging issue, which is then made up for due to the huge drop the following Tuesday. Even more the reason not to worry about today’s death figure.

However, going back to current hospital figures, do remember that at the height in third week of January we were at just under 40,000 in UK hospitals and several regions in England - in fact all the main ones such as London, South East, North West, Yorkshire and Midlands EACH had more patients in just that single region than are in hospital in England today and in most of those regions more than are in the entire UK today.

A sobering illustration of how fast we have brought this virus under control. It’s brought a lot of new hope to myself and I’m sure many others here.

4,245 patients in England only and 5,139 in the UK. Could be below 4K and 5K respectively tomorrow. Is harder to find Welsh data as well as Scotland, but if something bad happens, I’m sure someone will tell me.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Q: Why has the UK had one of the highest death rates?

A: Johnson says the pandemic is, alas, not over. So international comparisons are premature, he says.

He's hoping other nations see more Covid19 deaths just so he wont look like the utter 'kin disaster he is. A blood stained murderer with zero humanity.

Without doubt "Tory" will celebrate like it were VE day...

Britain should be nowhere near this amount of dead 126,284. And it's only part of the unfolding story. The NHS is failing. Had to deal with a service user whose partner perforated bowel op has basically failed, they were discharged 1 day after procedure which is normal 7 day stay.

Will now have to have riskier operation through the stomach wall, normal times this is very urgent, however, told it will be 6 month most likely a year.

Know of one without anecdotal doubt and numerous similar of families having whip rounds to send older relatives to private hospital for elective surgeries such as cataracts, literally falling over blind such is the delays and wait in the NHS now.

 

[peteblue]

EU medicine regulator evaluating Russia's Sputnik V vaccine for use in Europe

The EMA has also been in touch with representatives of the Chinese Sinopharm jab.

www.thejournal.ie

“Cooke added that the agency is evaluating Sputnik V “in the same way that we have evaluated all the other vaccines that have submitted information to us.”

She didn’t set out a timeline for the inspections but Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko said yesterday that EMA representatives will visit Russia on 10 April.

So the usual EU mañana approach. It’s not as if there was a pandemic raging through the EU or anything........

 

[BlueToff]

Without doubt "Tory" will celebrate like it were VE day...

Britain should be nowhere near this amount of dead 126,284. And it's only part of the unfolding story. The NHS is failing. Had to deal with a service user whose partner perforated bowel op has basically failed, they were discharged 1 day after procedure which is normal 7 day stay.

Will now have to have riskier operation through the stomach wall, normal times this is very urgent, however, told it will be 6 month most likely a year.

Know of one without anecdotal doubt and numerous similar of families having whip rounds to send older relatives to private hospital for elective surgeries such as cataracts, literally falling over blind such is the delays and wait in the NHS now.

What's your solution?

Right now, we know the NHS is massively struggling because there's a pandemic which is putting literally every single health care system under strain - which is why countries have locked down, in the main. To ease the pressure on their health services.

Does the NHS need to be funded in a better way? Clearly.

Right now, what can we do about the delays? Do we just stop worrying about COVID, and get people in and disregard testing or anything like that and have hospitals become epicentres for the disease again? I'm in agony every day because of my wisdom teeth that I've been waiting on for 6 months now. Just waiting on a call from Leeds to go and have a scan but wait I must. There's obviously people with much more serious issues but what are we meant to do, right now?

If Germany, France, Italy etc weren't worried about their healthcare systems' capacity, they wouldn't be going back into strict lockdown.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

Know of one without anecdotal doubt and numerous similar of families having whip rounds to send older relatives to private hospital for elective surgeries such as cataracts, literally falling over blind such is the delays and wait in the NHS now.

Wife has suffered chronic knee problem for 12 month, after seeing an online physio last September he sent her an elastic band and some exercises to do and said he’d contact her in 3 months, as of yet not a word. We paid £150 to see private consultant he said she may need a scan, over 6 months waiting time on NHS, so looks like a£500 lay out for private scan, and if she needs an opp the waiting list on the NHS is god knows how long, so may have to go private for an opp and that could cost between £3000/£5000. Wouldn’t be to bad if we could claim it back of the NHS.

 

[davek]

There will come a time to review what we did right and what we did wrong in all four nations of the U.K. Of course the key issue now is vaccinations, and I know you don’t like to hear how well we are doing in that respect.....

We can judge right now: he's failed the nation - and the nation paid the price of his failure with 126,000 deaths, so far.

It really is pitiful that you cant put aside your ideology and call that fraudulent murderous clown out for what he's done.

 

[davek]

Without doubt "Tory" will celebrate like it were VE day...

Britain should be nowhere near this amount of dead 126,284. And it's only part of the unfolding story. The NHS is failing. Had to deal with a service user whose partner perforated bowel op has basically failed, they were discharged 1 day after procedure which is normal 7 day stay.

Will now have to have riskier operation through the stomach wall, normal times this is very urgent, however, told it will be 6 month most likely a year.

Know of one without anecdotal doubt and numerous similar of families having whip rounds to send older relatives to private hospital for elective surgeries such as cataracts, literally falling over blind such is the delays and wait in the NHS now.

I'm hearing of cases like this all the time, unfortunately.

It's terrifying.

The health service was overwhelmed. It wasn't 'nearly overwhelmed', it WAS overwhelmed - twice. That was down to a PM dithering and allowing corporate interests to win out. Johnson is right up to his elbows in Covid19 and non-Covid19 deaths and other terrible consequences.

He should be swinging from a lampost.

 

[davek]

Maybe part of the trial....

Pffffft!

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Wife has suffered chronic knee problem for 12 month, after seeing an online physio last September he sent her an elastic band and some exercises to do and said he’d contact her in 3 months, as of yet not a word. We paid £150 to see private consultant he said she may need a scan, over 6 months waiting time on NHS, so looks like a£500 lay out for private scan, and if she needs an opp the waiting list on the NHS is god knows how long, so may have to go private for an opp and that could cost between £3000/£5000. Wouldn’t be to bad if we could claim it back of the NHS.

Sorry to read this about your wife.

 

[Dan Tanner]

Was there a special dedication for @davek at the end of it ?

There sure was, it was also filmed for the BBC I-player, and right after the final credits 'happy crack' appears in a famous iconic scene, spouting a classic line of his...

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

Sorry to read this about your wife.

Thanks mate, it’s a nightmare she’s in pain practically 24hrs a day.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I'm hearing of cases like this all the time, unfortunately.

It's terrifying.

The health service was overwhelmed. It wasn't 'nearly overwhelmed', it WAS overwhelmed - twice. That was down to a PM dithering and allowing corporate interests to win out. Johnson is right up to his elbows in Covid19 and non-Covid19 deaths and other terrible consequences.

He should be swinging from a lampost.

Just have to look at critical care beds in the UK to see how our NHS is being mismanaged, and we have significant less than many of our contemporaries world wide. Not even going wonder into league tables and willy waving against the EU.

Covid-19: Critical care beds shortage prompts calls for review

The UK has 7.3 critical care beds per 100,000 people, compared to Germany's 33.8 and the US's 34.3.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[COYBL25]

There sure was, it was also filmed for the BBC I-player, and right after the final credits 'happy crack' appears in a famous iconic scene, spouting a classic line of his...


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[Spadge Vernacular]

I'm not even that and will read both sides to any issue, I know I'm not always right..

The problem with reading only those who agree with you is that you spend your time in an echo chamber. I suppose some find it kind of comforting in having their own views constantly reaffirmed and never thinking others may have a point. To me it's rather like thinking yourself infallible while shutting your eyes and covering your ears so you neither see nor hear anything to the contrary.

That sounds like kopite behaviour!

 

[peteblue]

We can judge right now: he's failed the nation - and the nation paid the price of his failure with 126,000 deaths, so far.

It really is pitiful that you cant put aside your ideology and call that fraudulent murderous clown out for what he's done.

The government has made mistakes, including the PM, the Cabinet, the CMO and CSA. Did we lock down too late ?was it hard enough? Did we reopen too soon ? Did we allow our borders to stay open too long? All of these things will have an answer and all of these things will have already been learnt by the above who were not blessed with hindsight. However it is not ideology that drives me, rather what are we doing now and what further things can we do to improve. And tbh, at the moment, from both a medical and economic point we are doing OK.....