Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

I have no idea what we are waiting for.

Personally I would call martial law and close down the whole country for 2 weeks.

Literally stop everybody and anybody from leaving their house unless they worked for the NHS.

People would go mental and it's just not feasible.

How do they get food. How do they get toiletries etc?

Not everyone has been hoarding like the world's been ending for the last two weeks.

And there's no evidence it'd actually work in terms of reducing the infection. All we know is the virus is here and literally anyone could have it and we wouldn't know.

So you could sit in a house for two weeks and have it and infect all your family and vice versa. Then you're all just in one big/little coronary house breathing each others' illness in and that, if anything, is going to make people a lot more ill.

On the news this afternoon, there was an expert stressing how important fresh air is for people who are self-isolating and how the virus doesn't actually spread that much outside, as long as people keep their distance.

Plus, once that two weeks is up, the virus would still be here. Everyone would come back out and then if they didn't get ill in that two weeks they'd just get it then and you're back to square one.

The best example we have so far is Singapore and they didn't do anything like that. They simply tested, tested and tested and banned large gatherings. They only shut schools if there was a case reported at that school. As of yesterday, a very low number of cases and zero deaths (that may have changed on the death toll today, I haven't seen).

 

[BlueToff]

If only there was a way to stop it spreading?

Haven't Italy been trying that for the last two weeks and the deaths are still rising?

 

[BlueToff]

I watched my local news, and they said Hampshire had the most cases and deaths so far ?
The BBC may well be wrong though.

Maybe it is then. But when I watched this afternoon they just kept mentioning London as being ahead of the curve.

 

[ilikecheese]

Of course. We’re employing 6 of them and will do so even when we close the pub (probably next week). A village is not like a street or part of a town. Everyone knows everyone and you really are in it together. I wouldn’t be able to look in the mirror if I didn’t help our village survive.....

That's great Pete. Just struggling to wrap my brain around your logic with the schools shutting down, a necessary evil IMO. Yes it will create hardship on families. Hence the need to Govt assistance. We are all in this together.

The lazy comment was with you dismissing how hard it would be to get 50 kids to avoid each other for a couple of weeks. Surely you are strong enough to not acquiesce to the will of a 3 year old.

 

[peteblue]

Yeah, 2 or 3 might play together, go round to each others house, play Fortnite, go play footy in the park.

But its not 50 kids and 20 staff all in the same room is it.

Well, to begin with it’s not 20 staff, and the kids are spread out over 3 classrooms. Primary school children are the most demanding age group and need the discipline and variation of activities. The majority of parents just will not cope for 3 months of lockdown. It will not happen, that’s why they tried to delay the start of this before the media demanded it. every part of the country is different, and London centric policies just don’t cut it......

 

[Hickson9]

Haven't Italy been trying that for the last two weeks and the deaths are still rising?

Their mortality curve is starting to curve back slightly. Even draconian measures take time because of the incubation period.

 

[dannyboy]

They defo dont.

Are they scared of the fall out of people being angry? People will be a lot more angry when the death toll spikes.

I saw mums talking on Facebook about how it's not all bad because they'll get to visit the park everyday with the kids off. Plenty of people are in the dark about what's coming. About time the government acted and put them out their misery to start sorting the problem out.

 

[BlueToff]

Tens of thousands at a minimum are going to die here, with a huge social and economic cost that will result in further deaths in the years to come.

And the main question is why was our government and the rest of Europe not prepared for it. They've had nearly two months.

 

[Hickson9]

Are they scared of the fall out of people being angry? People will be a lot more angry when the death toll spikes.

I saw mums talking on Facebook about how it's not all bad because they'll get to visit the park everyday with the kids off. Plenty of people are in the dark about what's coming. About time the government acted and put them out their misery to start sorting the problem out.

Unfortunately, many people are stupid and/or ignorant.

 

[BlueToff]

Their mortality curve is starting to curve back slightly. Even draconian measures take time because of the incubation period.

I understand that. But then expand it to us and given we've not gone full draconian straight away, and we have a larger population, then it's still going to be a longer incubation period?

 

[Goat]

People would go mental and it's just not feasible.

How do they get food. How do they get toiletries etc?

Not everyone has been hoarding like the world's been ending for the last two weeks.

And there's no evidence it'd actually work in terms of reducing the infection. All we know is the virus is here and literally anyone could have it and we wouldn't know.

So you could sit in a house for two weeks and have it and infect all your family and vice versa. Then you're all just in one big/little coronary house breathing each others' illness in and that, if anything, is going to make people a lot more ill.

On the news this afternoon, there was an expert stressing how important fresh air is for people who are self-isolating and how the virus doesn't actually spread that much outside, as long as people keep their distance.

Plus, once that two weeks is up, the virus would still be here. Everyone would come back out and then if they didn't get ill in that two weeks they'd just get it then and you're back to square one.

The best example we have so far is Singapore and they didn't do anything like that. They simply tested, tested and tested and banned large gatherings. They only shut schools if there was a case reported at that school. As of yesterday, a very low number of cases and zero deaths (that may have changed on the death toll today, I haven't seen).

I havent stockpiled either.

Humans can last 2 weeks without food, we have fresh water.

If people want fresh air they can open the window.

Haven't Italy been trying that for the last two weeks and the deaths are still rising?

Italy have been in lockdown for 11 days and people arent taking even that seriously despite 500 people a day dying.

Get the tanks on the streets and shoot on sight people who leave their homes.

China style is the only way.

 

[dannyboy]

Unfortunately, many people are stupid and/or ignorant.

I think it's just lack of information. I didn't know how strict it was going to be here until I got stopped walking to the shop with the Mrs. No couples, no groups allowed to walk together.

 

[Hickson9]

And the main question is why was our government and the rest of Europe not prepared for it. They've had nearly two months.

I can't answer that.

Even in my work, in a central government department in Whitehall, it didn't become a serious consideration until a few weeks ago. Nothing came from the top down.

 

[Hickson9]

I think it's just lack of information. I didn't know how strict it was going to be here until I got stopped walking to the shop with the Mrs. No couples, no groups allowed to walk together.

We live in a globally connected world with 24 hour news at our fingertips. Most people are wilfully ignorant.

 

[witchdoc187]

Haven't Italy been trying that for the last two weeks and the deaths are still rising?

I've been reading that one of the reasons is the extremely poor air quality in a lot of Italian cities. Lots of people have very poor immune systems because of it. So wouldn't want to be in London if that's the case.