Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Spadge Vernacular]

Covid-19: Continue using AstraZeneca vaccine, says WHO

It says there is no evidence of a link to blood clots, as major EU countries pause use of the vaccine.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[peteblue]

The yanks have swerved it when offered until their own results on it are in.

That is the cautious approach we should have seen here, only the murderer wanted a good news story to cover his arse over failing to shut down the country twice and causing tens of thousands of needless deaths. Yay for the 20 odd million vaccinated though.

The USA don’t really need it tbh, they have their own vaccines and are running at a pretty decent rate of inoculations....

 

[Goat]

Covid-19: Continue using AstraZeneca vaccine, says WHO

It says there is no evidence of a link to blood clots, as major EU countries pause use of the vaccine.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sadly The WHO are quite possibly 1 of the worst news "sources" from this whole thing.

 

[Goat]

The yanks have swerved it when offered until their own results on it are in.

That is the cautious approach we should have seen here, only the murderer wanted a good news story to cover his arse over failing to shut down the country twice and causing tens of thousands of needless deaths. Yay for the 20 odd million vaccinated though.

You seem almost upset that 20m have been saved.

Bit weird.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The suspected Pfizer-linked deaths didn't appear to get the same level of coverage.

Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination

Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine. “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar...

www.bmj.com

 

[Toast]

I'm not sure how related this is but when I was in hospital and for around 7 days after I got home I was injecting a blood thinner to avoid blood clots (can't remember the name of it ) so it was definitely something they were aware of and associated with Covid. So I think it would be interesting to see when the people who have sadly passed away got the vaccine and if they had any issues previously (in hospital with covid previously or no symptons/illness beforehand)

Probably Clexane.
I used to have that daily when in hospital for ages.
It’s pretty standard, or at least it was..

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Sadly The WHO are quite possibly 1 of the worst news "sources" from this whole thing.

Pete Townsend is certainly a bit suspect, like.

 

[peteblue]

It is the opposite of that, pete. If there is a problem with a vaccine (or indeed any medication or treatment), they've got to find out what it is and either prove or disprove it as soon as possible and then if required make any necessary changes. If they'd just let this continue on with those questions still unanswered, then we really would have a product undermined every time someone died after being jabbed.

They could all have stopped using the vaccine without saying anything and scaring half of Europe. It is a failure of the Politicians, it is a scandal and it is irresponsible.......

 

[tsubaki]

They could all have stopped using the vaccine without saying anything and scaring half of Europe. It is a failure of the Politicians, it is a scandal and it is irresponsible.......

lol

suddenly stopping using AZ and not saying why would have scared all of Europe, not just half of it

 

[random]

What it has to do with the EU - I don’t know, they haven’t banned it. The EMA are going to investigate it and offer advice, which is the responsible thing to do.

The EU (EMA) say it's ok

European Medicines Agency (EMA) insisted the rate of clots 'in vaccinated people seems not to be higher than that seen in the general population. And its benefits outweigh the risks of side effects'

 

[roydo]

Blimey, Brazil is a mess. 2000 deaths a day.

The President said "Stop whining".

 

[tsubaki]

The suspected Pfizer-linked deaths didn't appear to get the same level of coverage.

Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination

Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine. “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar...

www.bmj.com

the answer as to why they probably didn't receive much coverage is contained in that article, btw:

The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients.

“There is a possibility that these common adverse reactions, that are not dangerous in fitter, younger patients and are not unusual with vaccines, may aggravate underlying disease in the elderly,” Madsen said. “We are not alarmed or worried about this, because these are very rare occurrences and they occurred in very frail patients with very serious disease,” he emphasised. “We are now asking for doctors to continue with the vaccination, but to carry out extra evaluation of very sick people whose underlying condition might be aggravated by it.” This evaluation includes discussing the risks and benefits of vaccination with the patient and their families to decide whether or not vaccination is the best course.

 

[COYBL25]

I had the AZ gnats piss last week and I’ve had no side effects at all.

 

[Neiler]

Ilve never had a reaction to a vaccine before, and Ilm not expecting one with this (beyond the usual ones AZ have held their hands up to).

A bad reaction or rather the experience of side effects is actually a good thing, I was speaking to an immunologist today and was telling them how knocked I was after dose 2, they said “good”, was telling me the side effects are actually activation of the immune system, the more knocked you are apparently the better the vaccine has activated your immune response and system, especially after dose 2!

 

[peteblue]

The suspected Pfizer-linked deaths didn't appear to get the same level of coverage.

Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination

Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine. “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar...

www.bmj.com

Indeed, I wonder why. And I also wonder why those in here saying that AZ must be paused and investigated further don’t apply the same standards to Pfizer.....