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My wife and I don’t have a date for the second jab, we know the twelve weeks is around mid May so will just see what contact happens and phone up if needed....
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My wife and I don’t have a date for the second jab, we know the twelve weeks is around mid May so will just see what contact happens and phone up if needed....
davek
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Yes. I understand that. But the claims for the flu and the flu vaccine are not the same as those that have been claimed for the impact on Covid19 by the Covid19 vaccine. And there was no mention - in all the hulabaloo when rolling out the vaccine and its impact - about modelling that suggests 50,000-55,000 more deaths in the next year or so with the vaccines rolled out.
This was not in the script being read out by experts and commentators alike in the last 4 months. Only a fool would suggest otherwise.
I’m not polarised by EU nor U.K. mate, I know you have strong opinions on both. I can praise and critique each in equal measure and have done throughout this thread. I trained in the U.K., worked in the NHS, lived there for many years, as I have around Europe as well as the States, Oz and NZ. So my opinion on this is totally unbiased or nationalistic. In fact I’ve a fair bit of s,in in the game most places. No ones happier then me to see the U.K. get in here.
You keep talking about vaccine schedules, contracts. Tell me the schedule, I can tell you that AZ have failed to meet 75% of its schedule obligation to the EU this quarter, that’s breach of contract - you’ve talked about best efforts, the U.K. contract is based on best efforts, you talk about U.K. being quick to agree a deal, they signed a contract with AZ a day after the EU I posted the source above. You keep saying contracts and schedules, but you are presuming and speculating.
Elsewise, your position is, you are happy to get 75% of imported AZ from the EU, 50% of given vaccines so far from the EU, for the U.K. to export 0% and say, sorry nothing to see here and don’t stress because we will continue to take what we produce, 75% of what you produce as long as we need it and sure look, just bad luck for the EU - really do you that logically is going to continue in the long term and through waves of procurement and renegotiation. If you think it’s fine with the U.K. de facto not exporting their production of vaccines and using it, you have to be ok with the U.K. doing the same.
The EU is the producing vaccine block, of course there are going to be consequences, through rounds of this, that’s just logical. I’ve said it many times on here, this vaccine roll out will go on for years and is a marathon not a sprint. This is very short sighted, it’s really irresponsible to think, we’re grand now, wave a flag and say phew that’s over, this vaccine dynamic, procurement, negotiations, production and roll out is going to go on for years yet.
As I said I’ve no beef with the U.K. or US I lived and worked in both but I’ve lost respect for them, their governments and the stance they have taken given the information emerging today, it takes the gloss of the good roll outs and success when you look at the supply chain. Morally I don’t think you can collude with the equation I present.
As I say if the EU take up the position, the US and U.K. are by not banning exports, but taking their share before looking to others, well the numbers speak for themselves. The EU has gone up in my estimation after today and I’m not particularly partisan. My own analysis would be, there will be consequences to this, that’s not a threat because I’m just some lid in the internet, but if your producing most of the world vaccines and your contracts aren’t being met, logically what are you going to do in the future and that comes from somewhere - I sincerely hope that doesn’t come to pass, but it’s frankly obvious, we’re not even 1% into the years of this roll out yet.
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Was reading some interesting stuff today on the development of of a super vaccine hybrid, that if successful could cover both new COVID strains and flu. Very, very very early stages of research mind and probably best described as ideological at this stage, still the science is incredible.
davek
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We're going to be like pin cushions.
Not the time to be buying shares in Lemsip!
Toast
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It will be like living back in Birkenhead.
Yikes.
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NilSatisOptimum
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Collateral damage for the positive spin nothing to see.
www.bbc.co.uk
Cancer patients 'lack same protection' after first jab
A 12-week gap could leave those having two Pfizer jabs vulnerable to Covid-19, researchers suggest.
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grandjoeblue
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Is that high for them? Isn't there over 200m people in Brazil? Thats similar to about 700 dying here in a day.
NilSatisOptimum
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As for the concern for mental health in this period by government it's been a useful idiot for other agenda, now back in rightful place, so pull your socks up and stiffen those lips.
"We are disappointed that there were no further commitments to invest in public and mental health services".
www.bma.org.uk
"We are disappointed that there were no further commitments to invest in public and mental health services".
Budget 2021: what you need to know
Chancellor Rishi Sunak delivered his budget to Parliament on 3 March. Our briefing covers the need to know aspects for doctors and the NHS and our analysis.
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Barnfred 55
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That sounds far too much like common sense to actually be true.
Do you know if that's a general directive or just your local GP being sensible
You can’t just apply the maths like that. Two totally different countries. Brazil isn’t an international hub, for a start.
The deaths are going to continue to increase, as well. The case count has been rapidly increasing daily and is higher than it has ever been, so there will probably be 3000 deaths every day within weeks.
Its getting speeded up Pete, check you normally get a date when you get the jab, here in Liverpool its down to 9 weeks now.
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