Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Hospital figures - 170 deaths were announced today, up 66 on yesterday and down 112 on last Tuesday. 164 deaths were in English hospitals, up 63 on yesterday and down 115 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 210.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 231 deaths were announced today, up 166 on yesterday and down 112 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 214.43

For the 60 day cut off, 380 deaths were announced today, up 269 on yesterday and down 183 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 337.14

The rolling average is dropping like a stone week on week.....
 
Do you read anything I post?

You are correct. The roadmap wont be deviated from, other than to extend it. The CRG clowns are pressing for an earlier reopen.

Witty was explaining to the MPs on the panel what would happen if we followed the CRG route.
It’s really not getting through to him isn’t it?.
 
The U.K. is doing two doses, and yes we are doing brilliantly......

Just adding the context to the stats mate, EU countries are offering second jabs 3 times faster then in the UK. So the UK first dose "vaccination" figures need to be astrexed on that score comparatively.

The same way the Uk stats on full vaccinations need to be * becuase of the EU strategy:

Germany 3%
Ireland 3%
Spain 3%
France 2.8%
Italy 2.8%
UK 1.7%

It depends on what data you want to look at to evaluate really, but dosing strategy influences it either way.

UK are doing brilliantly and way better then the EU at the moment, even if they have different ideas!!
 
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Why? I thought it was accepted that a decent space between the jabs was better than getting 2 jabs as quick as possible?

The first jab doesnt fully kick in for 3 weeks anyrate.

The MRNA's in the Eu are given 3/4 weeks a part. AZ has only been availble in Eu for a couple of week and that is at the 12 week doses mate as recomended.

I don't think it has been accepted widely bar in the UK, that there should be a 12 week gap between the MRNA doses. Or fist doses should be prioritized before second ones.
 
The MRNA's in the Eu are given 3/4 weeks a part. AZ has only been availble in Eu for a couple of week and that is at the 12 week doses mate as recomended.

I don't think it has been accepted widely bar in the UK, that there should be a 12 week gap between the MRNA doses. Or fist doses should be prioritized before second ones.

Cheers.

I absolutely hate the vax nationalism that has surfaced in the last few months, but that said, knowing now what we do about how brilliant the UK is in all things bio/vax stuff, I am very comfortable following their advice.
 
Cheers.

I absolutely hate the vax nationalism that has surfaced in the last few months, but that said, knowing now what we do about how brilliant the UK is in all things bio/vax stuff, I am very comfortable following their advice.

Yep the roll out in the UK has been massively impressive and I'm delighted by that, not least as our biggest travel route and we share a border and frankly speaking whatever happens in the UK will be blown west here.

The UK figures are dropping like a stone, a key one for me is case incidence % of swabs which the Uk's is by far the most impressive ive seen. That really is the stat i look at if you want to see how much covid is in the community at any one time. The last time i checked we were about 3% the UK about .7% - of course that depends on the quality of testing and trace etc. Overall cases around Europe are following the same trajectory as the UK - though to be fair the UK started from a higher baseline of active cases and deaths, they are tracking the likes of Germany now - with really only Italy were things seem a bit unwieldly still.

Im watching what the UK are doing with interest, i wouldn't have went that way myself, on a purely risk adverse clinical thinking point of view on best advice we have at the moment. But it could be a brilliant stroke and the UK have backed themselves, as you say yourself some of their modeling and particularly bio tracking of strains has been hugely impressive and world leading if you have a look into it.

Of what we know in lay mans terms is dose 1 gives you protection, dose 2 is the enabler for long term protection, so the 12 week interval will be tested eventually. If it proves successful there is a fair argument there for other countries struggling with supply changing direction to what the UK are doing, meaning more are given some protection. Seems just at the mo no one is breaking ranks and making a similar call, maybe there is a group think around it. But if its proven to be successful be great to get the confirmation as it means more people could be vaccinated quicker.

Nothing at the moment to suggest its the right or wrong call at the moment bar the UK anecdotally doing really well to bring their baseline impact down - so that indication is really positive, i think you guy's are hitting about 1 sixth of the vaccination programme number over all at the moment. Brilliant stuff on the roll out.
 
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