Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

The advice i was given not to take anything before the vaccine. But the vaccination team said to me take it if you have any side effects. Anecdotally where i work they are taking it here now straight after the jab to stop getting side effects before they come. - that's just locally here (health service) and they are clinicians. themselves in the main

Prob best advice is do what you are told.

I can see the logic in that in your setting for the sake of having everyone fit for the next day.

 

[davek]

The simple fact of the matter is I think the whole thing has been managed diabolically - and now NHS staff have been offered a 1% rise, I would tell them where to stuff it. The government pissed down 500million on track and trace to some Irish company, on top of all the other millions wasted and they insult nurses with this
In terms of covid I think first and foremost the elderly or people with underlying health should be put first, they make up 99% of cases so I don’t think it’s fair to penalise an entire country and basically bring it to its knees and destroy an entire economy
No one, absolutely no one was going mental when almost 100k died of the flu between 2016 and 2017 - there was no scaremongering and 24/7 news updated on deaths per region and propaganda, and the country was not crippled to death (literally)

Taiwan, Thailand and Japan – and probably many more nations with millions are not in the situation the UK is in – at all

Thailand and Taiwan have about 100 Million people and just as many deaths. Japan has about 130 Million people and 16 people under 40 died of covid.

What is not helping the UK is obesity IMO, its almost 20Million people – that is actually close enough to the population of Taiwan itself which is frankly scary.

People can say what they like but they need to accept that its people in this category along with the elderly which are most vulnerable so in essence you could say its not a covid 19 problem but one with society itself.

In the UK?!

Lol.

 

[toffeepie1878]

2016 = 30k deaths give or take
2017 = 50k deaths,, a flu spike apparently

 

[Neiler]

I can see the logic in that in your setting for the sake of having everyone fit for the next day.

Might be a bit of that in it mate, we're brutal at being sick ourselves. Biggest side effects tend to be fever, headaches, nausea and fatigue, your general over the counter help, the vaccination team here told me i was grand to take them after if needed (not before), but prob best to do what they tell you.

 

[toffee82]

I'm just going to have to take what's there on the day. I was enquiring less on the efficacy which are (under a certain age range) all much of a much-ness. It was the after effects that interested me more. Heard a lot about the AZ effect of chills and fever; then again, the Pfizer second jab is supposed to be a jolt to the system.

I'll get it asap now, on reflection.

My wife (pharmacist) had the AZ and had feverish symptoms. Only lasted the evening.

She reckons that it is likely she has had the virus based on this based on what she has read.

 

[Brennan]

2016 = 30k deaths give or take
2017 = 50k deaths,, a flu spike apparently

So now 80,000 is almost 100,000.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

The simple fact of the matter is I think the whole thing has been managed diabolically - and now NHS staff have been offered a 1% rise, I would tell them where to stuff it. The government pissed down 500million on track and trace to some Irish company, on top of all the other millions wasted and they insult nurses with this

In terms of covid I think first and foremost the elderly or people with underlying health should be put first, they make up 99% of cases so I don’t think it’s fair to penalise an entire country and basically bring it to its knees and destroy an entire economy

No one, absolutely no one was going mental when almost 100k died of the flu between 2016 and 2017 - there was no scaremongering and 24/7 news updated on deaths per region and propaganda, and the country was not crippled to death (literally)

Taiwan, Thailand and Japan – and probably many more nations with millions are not in the situation the UK is in – at all

Thailand and Taiwan have about 100 Million people and just as many deaths. Japan has about 130 Million people and 16 people under 40 died of covid.

What is not helping the UK is obesity IMO, its almost 20Million people – that is actually close enough to the population of Taiwan itself which is frankly scary.

People can say what they like but they need to accept that its people in this category along with the elderly which are most vulnerable so in essence you could say its not a covid 19 problem but one with society itself.

We're 63% fatso in the UK which is no joke - 35 million guts taking a pummelling from covid. You might think that alone could account for our very poor response to covid, overwhelming any minutiae of government policy.
But then places like New Zealand are even fatter than us and their covid figures are exemplary - obv very different country so a direct comparison to the UK not possible, I guess it would depend on how much virus in circulation they had there.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

 

[toffeepie1878]

My wife (pharmacist) had the AZ and had feverish symptoms. Only lasted the evening.

She reckons that it is likely she has had the virus based on this based on what she has read.

on the other hand she could have had flu.

 

[peteblue]

That’s just the USA winding up the EU over their lack of vaccines......

 

[toffee82]

on the other hand she could have had flu.

Actual flu is a lot worse than a bit of a fever for 6 hours.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

That’s just the USA winding up the EU over their lack of vaccines......

Such a waste and a dangerous one too.

 

[JLW]

The daily infection figures are falling
Vaccinated people rising
Deaths tumbling
Hospitalizations well down

We still have to take caution but we are nearly there!

I can almost smell that BBQ in the summer

 

[Goat]

2016 = 30k deaths give or take
2017 = 50k deaths,, a flu spike apparently

So now 80,000 is almost 100,000.

Its not even close to 80,000.

At the time of writing this article in March, Public Health England told Full Fact it estimated that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19 - with the yearly deaths varying widely from a high of 28,330 in 2014/15 to a low of 1,692 in 2018/19.

In June, Public Health England published updated figures, which showed a total of 3,966 flu deaths in 2018/19. The new figures, which include changes in other years, put the average at around 15,000 deaths each flu season in this period.









So the worst flu year we had 28,000 deaths.

In 12 months of Covid we have had 124,000.

Which works out at around 4 really bad years of flu in a year or roughly around 10 years of "average" flu years, in 12months.

Im honestly trying not to engage with this total moron, but his misinformation is dangerous and misinformation costs lives, there's a place in hell for the kind of people who spread lies in wartime.

 

[Moomin]

The simple fact of the matter is I think the whole thing has been managed diabolically - and now NHS staff have been offered a 1% rise, I would tell them where to stuff it. The government pissed down 500million on track and trace to some Irish company, on top of all the other millions wasted and they insult nurses with this

In terms of covid I think first and foremost the elderly or people with underlying health should be put first, they make up 99% of cases so I don’t think it’s fair to penalise an entire country and basically bring it to its knees and destroy an entire economy

No one, absolutely no one was going mental when almost 100k died of the flu between 2016 and 2017 - there was no scaremongering and 24/7 news updated on deaths per region and propaganda, and the country was not crippled to death (literally)

Taiwan, Thailand and Japan – and probably many more nations with millions are not in the situation the UK is in – at all

Thailand and Taiwan have about 100 Million people and just as many deaths. Japan has about 130 Million people and 16 people under 40 died of covid.

What is not helping the UK is obesity IMO, its almost 20Million people – that is actually close enough to the population of Taiwan itself which is frankly scary.

People can say what they like but they need to accept that its people in this category along with the elderly which are most vulnerable so in essence you could say its not a covid 19 problem but one with society itself.