Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I think Austria and Denmark are looking more long term no? They want their own production and research capacity for future generations of vaccines for mutant strains. Interesting that Kurz took a shot at the EMA and not the EU (or VDL)

Tbh I think the real problem with the EU program originated from the moment Macron rubbished the Astra Zeneca jab for the over 65s when the peer reviewed science said no such thing. There was a lack of trial data but the overwhelming likelihood was always that it would still be hugely beneficial, a weaker immune reaction is expected, but worse scenario was that it wouldn't fall off a cliff and be useless, as he all but implied.

The technical issues they now face with storing unused AZ vaccines combined with the normal logistical problems of having enough extreme cold temperature storage facilities for the Pfizer tells a predictable story. Combine this with the comfort he gave to the head the ball anti vaxers and the increase in vaccine scepticism across France and now Europe, and you have your cocktail for the new mutant variants to thrive.

The South African and Brazilian variants are even more dangerous than the Kent variant, and levels of the Brazilian and South African ones are now reaching dangerous tipping points of 10% of all infections across 10 of their regions, and up to 50% in one or two.

Top scientists in Germany and Italy have called for a complete rethink of strategy, widespread vaccination of the vulnerable groups with all available jabs and a stretching of the gap between first and second doses is urgently being looked at. France has Macron to contend with.
 
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Top chart is infections, second is deaths.

With the caveat of less testing taking place, the summer levels last year were very flat.

The mean from mid-May to September for daily infections was well below 1,000.

June 21st, last year (probably a reasonable date to compare given June 21st is the aim for restrictions ending), there were 986 confirmed cases.

That's without a vaccine. Without even the working track and trace in place either.

He sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
 
He sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
I wouldn't even disagree with what he says if he used a better time of the year to compare, but he's said 'summer 2020' which was, without vaccines and even with some level of normality (masks only came in as mandatory in July, which is when pubs/restaurants opened again etc), and people allowed to go round to people's houses etc, the rates stayed flat, and that's without the vaccine to factor in.
 
Just read there about the recent obesity study and links to Covid deaths. Apparently 90% of all Covid deaths in the world have been in countries with high obesity rates, including the UK. Countries were more than half the population is overweight have had 10x more deaths than elsewhere.

This isn't to sound patronising because it's an interesting study to have that backs up common sense, really.

Really is sad and I'm not saying if you're fat you deserve to get ill or anything stupid like that. Just, people need to start living healthier lives.
 
Hospital figures - 251 deaths were announced today, down 31 on yesterday and down 125 on last Wednesday. 204 deaths were in English hospitals, down 75 on yesterday and down 98 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 263.71

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 315 deaths were announced today, down 28 on yesterday and down 127 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 266.29

For whatever reason there is no 60 day cut off data for today as yet, I will put that info with tomorrow’s figures once they are known
Just an amendment on this, 172 additional deaths were added retrospectively to the 28 day cut off total, making the new total as 487. This is now 144 up, not 28 down on the Tuesday figure and 65 up, not 127 down on last Wednesday. This meant the 7 day rolling average rose to 290.86

The 60 day cut off figure came out as 685, up 122 on Tuesday and up 53 on last Wednesday. That 7 day rolling average rose to 435.86
 
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Top chart is infections, second is deaths.

With the caveat of less testing taking place, the summer levels last year were very flat.

The mean from mid-May to September for daily infections was well below 1,000.

June 21st, last year (probably a reasonable date to compare given June 21st is the aim for restrictions ending), there were 986 confirmed cases.

That's without a vaccine. Without even the working track and trace in place either.
Infections are staying stubbornly high after 2 months of lockdown.

They will spike up even more when the schools return. That is no situation to be in.
 
Summer was going so well last year, then the kids went back to school and the Kent variant was born. There was no testing in place back then unlike next week onwards.

Hopefully the government will be able to distinguish between the home tests on school children and adults, rather than just state “infections are rising”, while giving the public no indication on which of these are tests on school children.
 
Just read there about the recent obesity study and links to Covid deaths. Apparently 90% of all Covid deaths in the world have been in countries with high obesity rates, including the UK. Countries were more than half the population is overweight have had 10x more deaths than elsewhere.
Obesity and age are the main problems which have caused big problems in europe/USA. People tend to be a lot more active/thinner in Asia and in say India/Africa much younger too which reduces the likelihood of death significantly.
 
Just an amendment on this, 172 additional deaths were added retrospectively to the 28 day cut off total, making the new total as 487. This is now 144 up, not 28 down on the Tuesday figure and 65 up, not 127 down on last Wednesday. This meant the 7 day rolling average rose to 290.86

The 60 day cut off figure came out as 685, up 122 on Tuesday and up 53 on last Wednesday. That 7 day rolling average rose to 435.86
The 172 is added on from Scotland, so England remains the same from yesterday.
 
Just an amendment on this, 172 additional deaths were added retrospectively to the 28 day cut off total, making the new total as 487. This is now 144 up, not 28 down on the Tuesday figure and 65 up, not 127 down on last Wednesday. This meant the 7 day rolling average rose to 290.86

The 60 day cut off figure came out as 685, up 122 on Tuesday and up 53 on last Wednesday. That 7 day rolling average rose to 435.86
Next week Thursday that add on will be disregarded and the rolling average will be back on track again.

This is nothing new, it happened last year with cases added on from Wales all in one lump in a single day.
 
People need to read this.


'When will it end?': How a changing virus is reshaping scientists’ views on COVID-19​


CHICAGO (Reuters) - Chris Murray, a University of Washington disease expert whose projections on COVID-19 infections and deaths are closely followed worldwide, is changing his assumptions about the course of the pandemic.

Murray had until recently been hopeful that the discovery of several effective vaccines could help countries achieve herd immunity, or nearly eliminate transmission through a combination of inoculation and previous infection. But in the last month, data from a vaccine trial in South Africa showed not only that a rapidly-spreading coronavirus variant could dampen the effect of the vaccine, it could also evade natural immunity in people who had been previously infected.

“I couldn’t sleep” after seeing the data, Murray, director of the Seattle-based Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, told Reuters. “When will it end?” he asked himself, referring to the pandemic. He is currently updating his model to account for variants’ ability to escape natural immunity and expects to provide new projections as early as this week.

A new consensus is emerging among scientists, according to Reuters interviews with 18 specialists who closely track the pandemic or are working to curb its impact. Many described how the breakthrough late last year of two vaccines with around 95% efficacy against COVID-19 had initially sparked hope that the virus could be largely contained, similar to the way measles has been.

But, they say, data in recent weeks on new variants from South Africa and Brazil has undercut that optimism. They now believe that SARS-CoV-2 will not only remain with us as an endemic virus, continuing to circulate in communities, but will likely cause a significant burden of illness and death for years to come.

As a result, the scientists said, people could expect to continue to take measures such as routine mask-wearing and avoiding crowded places during COVID-19 surges, especially for people at high risk.

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Even after vaccination, “I still would want to wear a mask if there was a variant out there,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical advisor to U.S. President Joe Biden, said in an interview. “All you need is one little flick of a variant (sparking) another surge, and there goes your prediction” about when life gets back to normal.

Some scientists, including Murray, acknowledge that the outlook could improve. The new vaccines, which have been developed at record speed, still appear to prevent hospitalizations and death even when new variants are the cause of infection. Many vaccine developers are working on booster shots and new inoculations that could preserve a high level of efficacy against the variants. And, scientists say there is still much to be learned about the immune system’s ability to combat the virus.

Already, COVID-19 infection rates have declined in many countries since the start of 2021, with some dramatic reductions in severe illness and hospitalizations among the first groups of people to be vaccinated.

WORSE THAN FLU​

Murray said if the South African variant, or similar mutants, continue to spread rapidly, the number of COVID-19 cases resulting in hospitalization or death this coming winter could be four times higher than the flu. The rough estimate assumes a 65% effective vaccine given to half of a country’s population. In a worst-case scenario, that could represent as many as 200,000 U.S. deaths related to COVID-19 over the winter period, based on federal government estimates of annual flu fatalities.



His institute’s current forecast, which runs to June 1, assumes there will be an additional 62,000 U.S. deaths and 690,000 global deaths from COVID-19 by that point. The model includes assumptions about vaccination rates as well as the transmissibility of the South African and Brazilian variants.

The shift in thinking among scientists has influenced more cautious government statements about when the pandemic will end. Britain last week said it expects a slow emergence from one of the world’s strictest lockdowns, despite having one of the fastest vaccination drives.

U.S. government predictions of a return to a more normal lifestyle have been repeatedly pushed back, most recently from late summer to Christmas, and then to March 2022. Israel issues “Green Pass” immunity documents to people who have recovered from COVID-19 or been vaccinated, allowing them back into hotels or theaters. The documents are only valid for six months because it’s not clear how long immunity will last.

“What does it mean to be past the emergency phase of this pandemic?,” said Stefan Baral, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. While some experts have asked whether countries could completely eradicate any case of COVID-19 through vaccines and stringent lockdowns, Baral sees the goals as more modest, but still meaningful. “In my mind, it’s that hospitals aren’t full, the ICUs aren’t full, and people aren’t tragically passing,” he said.

“SCIENTIFIC WHIPLASH”


From the beginning, the new coronavirus has been a moving target.

Early in the pandemic, leading scientists warned that the virus could become endemic and “may never go away,” including Dr. Michael Ryan, head of the World Health Organization’s emergencies programme.

Yet they had much to learn, including whether it would be possible to develop a vaccine against the virus and how quickly it would mutate. Would it be more like measles, which can be kept almost entirely at bay in communities with high rates of inoculation, or flu, which infects millions globally each year?

For much of 2020, many scientists were surprised and reassured that the coronavirus had not changed significantly enough to become more transmissible, or deadly.

A major breakthrough came in November. Pfizer Inc and its German partner BioNTech SE as well as Moderna Inc said their vaccines were around 95% effective at preventing COVID-19 in clinical trials, an efficacy rate that is much higher than any flu shot.



At least a few of the scientists Reuters interviewed said even in the wake of those results, they hadn’t expected the vaccines to wipe out the virus. But many told Reuters that the data raised hope within the scientific community that it would be possible to virtually eliminate COVID-19, if only the world could be vaccinated quickly enough.

“We all felt quite optimistic before Christmas with those first vaccines,” said Azra Ghani, chair in infectious disease epidemiology at Imperial College London. “We didn’t necessarily expect such high-efficacy vaccines to be possible in that first generation.”

The optimism proved short-lived. In late December, the UK warned of a new, more transmissible variant that was quickly becoming the dominant form of the coronavirus in the country. Around the same time, researchers learned of the impact of the faster-spreading variants in South Africa and in Brazil.

Phil Dormitzer, a top vaccine scientist at Pfizer, told Reuters in November that the U.S. drugmaker’s vaccine success signaled the virus was “vulnerable to immunization” in what he called “a breakthrough for humanity.” By early January, he acknowledged the variants heralded “a new chapter” in which companies will have to constantly monitor for mutations that could dampen the effect of vaccines.

In late January, the impact on vaccines became even clearer. Novavax’s clinical trial data showed its vaccine was 89% effective in a UK trial, but just 50% effective at preventing COVID-19 in South Africa. That was followed a week later by data showing the AstraZeneca PLC vaccine offered only limited protection from mild disease against the South African variant.


The most recent change of heart was considerable, several of the scientists told Reuters. Shane Crotty, a virologist at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in San Diego, described it as “scientific whiplash”: In December, he had believed it was plausible to achieve so-called “functional eradication” of the coronavirus, similar to measles.

Now, “getting as many people vaccinated as possible is still the same answer and the same path forward as it was on December 1 or January 1,” Crotty said, “but the expected outcome isn’t the same.”
 
May be controversial opinion here.. but as much as the government has fluffed it's way through the pandemic with it's constant mixed-messages (particularly early on) I don't think the British people have necessarily covered themselves in glory either..

The first lockdown, overall, was a success and I genuinely think that was carried mainly by the 'scare factor' of the virus being new & relatively unknown to us. The problem has been that by the end of last summer people simply got fed up of restrictions and it's been a bit of a s**t show since. I can't believe how much busier it's gotten out and about considering we're still actually meant to be in a 'full national lockdown'...

The likes of Whitty, Van Tam et al can say 'it isn't over' and 'continue to stay indoors' as much as they want but by this point it's largely falling on deaf ears. Patience has worn out and common sense has been thrown out the window. There are people out there who've stopped social distancing and wearing masks now for christ sake!
 
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