Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Amw79]

The current Brazil President is somewhat of a poster boy for our centre right leaning politicians and chatterarity...

Bolosonaro says Covid vaccine may turn people into crocodiles in bizarre rant

President also suggested women may grow beards as a result of jab

www.independent.co.uk

He made some very different claims there. You may “turn into a crocodile”, or alternatively “become superhuman”.

Think I’m willing to take the chance.

 

[davek]

Can tell they are worried (government), had the vaccine Minster blurting his nonsense. This variant has been known about for months last autumn. We've had isolation hotels for 2 weeks.Too little to late, yet again.

And similarly with Kent variant does not the mean Brazil variant started there just it was first identified in said countries.

It's another disaster for them.

All the chest thumping about vaccines when they dont get a simple thing like quarantining incoming passengers taking the piss coming in via a European country. 'kin prison sentences need handing out for scum like that.

Vaccines - yeah. 20 million yada yada yada...but if you have variants that can rip through the population and compromise those vaccines then it means f.a.

IMO the reopenings planned should be ditched.

This lot are not fit to be in office.

 

[grandjoeblue]

It's another disaster for them.

All the chest thumping about vaccines when they dont get a simple thing like quarantining incoming passengers taking the piss coming in via a European country. 'kin prison sentences need handing out for scum like that.

Vaccines - yeah. 20 million yada yada yada...but if you have variants that can rip through the population and compromise those vaccines then it means f.a.

IMO the reopenings planned should be ditched.

This lot are not fit to be in office.

The world leading british AZ vaccine works against the strain.

Its quickly becoming apparent that the AZ vaccine is the answer to all of these strains.

Fortunately the AZ vaccine is being used here which means a full reopening is possible as it prevents hospitalisation from all known variants.

 

[Charro]

Great start of the week for davek.

I bet he was positively joyous at the news of the Brazilian variant.

Has there been any news on if the vaccines works with this variant? From a reliable source please, not somebody that’s given an interview on the radio for five minutes.

 

[navidson]

Another day - another blag 'variant' trying to terrify the general public

The tabloids love it

 

[Moomin]

Another day - another blag 'variant' trying to terrify the general public

The tabloids love it

It's common knowledge that we will have variants, we have known from the start this will happen.

Except for our head of track and trace Dido Hardings of course.

 

[BlueToff]

Dr Susan Hopkins, Public Health England's Covid-19 strategic response director, says the P1 variant from Brazil is concerning because it is more transmissible and there have also been cases of people being reinfected by it - which may mean the vaccine response is also affected.

She tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme that health authorities are "clamping down" with a number of measures because with these new variants, the "risk starts to increase when you open up" as the UK intends to in the coming months.

Which is precisely what Johnson, Whitty and Valance said last week.

But there will be risk whether we open up next week or next year (and we aren't 'opening up' in any real form until at, the very earliest, March 29th).

 

[COYBL25]

Great start of the week for davek.

I bet he was positively joyous at the news of the Brazilian variant.

Has there been any news on if the vaccines works with this variant? From a reliable source please, not somebody that’s given an interview on the radio for five minutes.

His self righteousness indignation is a thing of beauty.

His like that mad old fella, that used to walk up and down outside Goodison, with his End is Nigh Placard. You know he’s there, but don’t take a blind bit of notice of him lol

 

[BlueToff]

The world leading british AZ vaccine works against the strain.

Its quickly becoming apparent that the AZ vaccine is the answer to all of these strains.

Fortunately the AZ vaccine is being used here which means a full reopening is possible as it prevents hospitalisation from all known variants.

Can you stop with the British vax stuff?

AZ isn't even a fully British company. They used Oxford's system to help get it off the ground. I don't care whether a vaccine is made in Sussex or Berlin, as long as it works.

Every vaccine is showing that - against every variant so far tested - it is reducing serious illness, and subsequently greatly reducing the risk of death.

There'll be new variants cropping up and they'll have to be tested. Some variants may mean the vaccines need tweaking - like the South African one has meant they'll have to be tweaked slightly to also reduce the risk of infection, not just death.

But yes, your general point is spot on. The vaccines will do enough for the vast majority of people. That reduces the illness - whatever strain - down to a manageable level for healthcare systems across the globe. That is literally the point of the vaccine.

 

[BlueToff]

Great start of the week for davek.

I bet he was positively joyous at the news of the Brazilian variant.

Has there been any news on if the vaccines works with this variant? From a reliable source please, not somebody that’s given an interview on the radio for five minutes.

They're testing it.

Given every vaccine so far works in terms of reducing serious illness, there's very little chance this variant will prove to be any different.

The main thing will be the efficacy of stopping infection, but that's not really the point at this stage. It's firstly about managing the virus, not stopping it being here.

 

[jinkyali]

Remarkable and depressing how negative the media is.

I know. Best ignore.

 

[jinkyali]

Great start of the week for davek.

I bet he was positively joyous at the news of the Brazilian variant.

Has there been any news on if the vaccines works with this variant? From a reliable source please, not somebody that’s given an interview on the radio for five minutes.

It was tested against significantly in the AZ trials in Brazil.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Can you stop with the British vax stuff?

AZ isn't even a fully British company. They used Oxford's system to help get it off the ground. I don't care whether a vaccine is made in Sussex or Berlin, as long as it works.

Every vaccine is showing that - against every variant so far tested - it is reducing serious illness, and subsequently greatly reducing the risk of death.

There'll be new variants cropping up and they'll have to be tested. Some variants may mean the vaccines need tweaking - like the South African one has meant they'll have to be tweaked slightly to also reduce the risk of infection, not just death.

But yes, your general point is spot on. The vaccines will do enough for the vast majority of people. That reduces the illness - whatever strain - down to a manageable level for healthcare systems across the globe. That is literally the point of the vaccine.

Agreed. Its not particularly important that its a british vaccine, it just happens to perform extremely well and is in mass use here.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Can you stop with the British vax stuff?

AZ isn't even a fully British company. They used Oxford's system to help get it off the ground. I don't care whether a vaccine is made in Sussex or Berlin, as long as it works.

Hmm.

 

[BlueToff]

Hmm.

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I'm fully on board with all of the vaccines and have backed the Oxford-AZ one loads of times in here.

I'm just not a vaccine nationalist. I genuinely don't care where it's made, as long as it works (which they do) and they can get it to as many people as quickly as possible (which is where the UK's risk in increasing the spacing up to 12 weeks seems to be paying off).