Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

Status
Not open for further replies.
While the virus has ravaged rich nations, reported death rates in poorer ones remain relatively low. What probing this epidemiological mystery can tell us about global health.

 
442 deaths, 9938 cases from 579,447 tests.

Tests down quite a bit on yesterday so positivity has risen from 1.3% to 1.7% today. However, this is good news as it’s well below 5% yet again; the minimum percentage the WHO state a nation has to be at or below to prove that they have a pandemic under control.

Also, as already mentioned here, the vaccines are getting back to their usual daily levels.
 
Went with my wife for her jab this morning, and there was a short 5-minute queue to get into the medical centre. During that short wait, there were two idiots haranguing the poor vaccine marshal because they didn't want to queue. 'My appointment said 11.30 and it's 11.30 now so why do I have to queue?' I had to stop myself from getting involved…
 
Went with my wife for her jab this morning, and there was a short 5-minute queue to get into the medical centre. During that short wait, there were two idiots haranguing the poor vaccine marshal because they didn't want to queue. 'My appointment said 11.30 and it's 11.30 now so why do I have to queue?' I had to stop myself from getting involved…
Nonsense like that really does make the blood boil.
In hindsight the answer could have been:
'the queue is 50 million people long - and
you are at the front of it mate!'
 
TBF if you are saying that most people can’t afford (because of the cost or other impacts on them) to have a couple of days sick, *when they are sick*, then surely that reveals quite a bit about this country doesn’t it?

Again, i'm not just on about financially.

I'm on about how it impacts parts of other people's lives.

I use the taking the kids to school example because I know for a fact that there'll have been plenty of times when I was younger that my mum didn't feel well yet she still got up and took me and my sister to school.

It doesn't really say anything about a country. It's just people's lives at the end of the day. And you'll have a job on convincing someone they need to call test, track and trace if they feel a bit run down.

With known COVID symptoms, it's going to be difficult enough, but at least persistent cough/high temps and loss of taste smell are specific.

If you're looking at it from a purely financial perspective, then that is easier to say it's on the government to provide the cover (and I agree). But there's much, much more to it than that.
 
Went with my wife for her jab this morning, and there was a short 5-minute queue to get into the medical centre. During that short wait, there were two idiots haranguing the poor vaccine marshal because they didn't want to queue. 'My appointment said 11.30 and it's 11.30 now so why do I have to queue?' I had to stop myself from getting involved…
Some people only ever seem to be happy when there's something to moan about
 


Hmm not sure about that


Reading and Leeds is 2 months after June 21st.

They have to start again sometime.

If they get cancelled, they get cancelled. As it stands, they can go ahead, because by the end of August, you're looking at the vast majority of the country having been jabbed at least once, and pretty much every clinically vulnerable person having their full two doses.
 
Hospital figures - 376 deaths were announced today, down 4 on yesterday and down 234 on last Wednesday. 302 deaths were in English hospitals, down 70 on yesterday and down 220 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 343.43

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 442 deaths were announced today, down 106 on yesterday and down 296 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to an even 402

For the 60 day cut off, 632 deaths were announced today, down 164 on yesterday and down 382 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 548.29
 
Again, i'm not just on about financially.

I'm on about how it impacts parts of other people's lives.

I use the taking the kids to school example because I know for a fact that there'll have been plenty of times when I was younger that my mum didn't feel well yet she still got up and took me and my sister to school.

It doesn't really say anything about a country. It's just people's lives at the end of the day. And you'll have a job on convincing someone they need to call test, track and trace if they feel a bit run down.

With known COVID symptoms, it's going to be difficult enough, but at least persistent cough/high temps and loss of taste smell are specific.

If you're looking at it from a purely financial perspective, then that is easier to say it's on the government to provide the cover (and I agree). But there's much, much more to it than that.

TBF if we can't convince people of the necessity for this now, after the year we've just had, after all the lives and jobs lost, then we'll never convince people of anything. Getting into the habit of this protects us all.

Yes, people will be inconvienienced by doing it - but we as a society can help as much as possible with that, ensuring that someone can do it and not face sanctions at work (or work from home), that kids can be taught from home when things like this happen.
 
TBF if we can't convince people of the necessity for this now, after the year we've just had, after all the lives and jobs lost, then we'll never convince people of anything. Getting into the habit of this protects us all.

Yes, people will be inconvienienced by doing it - but we as a society can help as much as possible with that, ensuring that someone can do it and not face sanctions at work (or work from home), that kids can be taught from home when things like this happen.

Tbf the last pandemic of this size was over 100 years ago.

The chances of any of us around today still being alive when the next one arrives is very slim.

Give it 1-2 years and we'll all be back to normal living life as if nothing happened.
 
TBF if we can't convince people of the necessity for this now, after the year we've just had, after all the lives and jobs lost, then we'll never convince people of anything. Getting into the habit of this protects us all.

Yes, people will be inconvienienced by doing it - but we as a society can help as much as possible with that, ensuring that someone can do it and not face sanctions at work (or work from home), that kids can be taught from home when things like this happen.
Sorry mate but you honestly live in fantasy land.

People said the same thing this Winter, if people have a sniffle they should stay at home, its total bolloxs.

My missus was actually bullied last time she had a sniffle and went to work, despite her getting tested regularly, I mean somebody like my missus seems to get a cold or something every single week, what you suggest means she probably would have worked about a week in the last 12months and at this point we would be living in a tent.

So its not inconvenience to get stay at home every time you have a sniffle, its downright damaging.
 
TBF if we can't convince people of the necessity for this now, after the year we've just had, after all the lives and jobs lost, then we'll never convince people of anything. Getting into the habit of this protects us all.

Yes, people will be inconvienienced by doing it - but we as a society can help as much as possible with that, ensuring that someone can do it and not face sanctions at work (or work from home), that kids can be taught from home when things like this happen.

I just don't know where the lines is, is all.

How do you strike that balance that covers everybody or the potential outcomes?

Is this really how they do it in the SE Asian/Far Eastern nations?
 
TBF if we can't convince people of the necessity for this now, after the year we've just had, after all the lives and jobs lost, then we'll never convince people of anything. Getting into the habit of this protects us all.

Yes, people will be inconvienienced by doing it - but we as a society can help as much as possible with that, ensuring that someone can do it and not face sanctions at work (or work from home), that kids can be taught from home when things like this happen.

It’s also a charter for piss takers and head workers.

I’m pretty sure everyone on here has worked with at least one person, who went sick at the drop of a hat and knew how to work the system inside out.

My missus works with a girl, who since April 1st last year, has been in work for less than 50% of the days should’ve been in.

That includes 5mths, 3wks and 4 days with stress - half pay kicks in at 6mths.

Other stuff including, panic attacks, a trapped nerve, chest infections, regular stuff like D&V etc

Three periods of self isolation waiting on Covid tests and she’s currently off at the mo with a “ bad back - unlikely to be back in work until she reaches 5mths 3wks and 4 days again.

Most periods of the minor periods of sickness coinciding with school holidays, weekends and Christmas.

Most workplaces I’ve worked in too, have someone like this, how do you legislate for them ?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join the Everton conversation today.
Fewer ads, full access, completely free.

🛒 Visit Shop

Support Grand Old Team by checking out our latest Everton gear!
Back
Top