Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Deckard2049]

I've read this from you before. I'm not sure what the scientific basis for it is. Westerners have different physiology to orientals because of exposure to virus? Is this proven?

The biggest difference is that they organise themselves better than we do. They act in unison and they act decisively. The individual is NOT king there. And that's the way we should be.

India's dramatic fall in virus cases leaves experts stumped

NEW DELHI (AP) — When the coronavirus pandemic took hold in India, there were fears it would sink the fragile health system of the world’s second-most populous country.

apnews.com

You think India as a population is more disciplined or organises itself better? Recently they’ve had less cases on average per day than we have even in week 7 of our lockdown. There clearly are other factors at play and related herd immunity is a proposed theory.

 

[roydo]

I've read this from you before. I'm not sure what the scientific basis for it is. Westerners have different physiology to orientals because of exposure to virus? Is this proven?

The biggets difference is that they organise themselves better than we do. They act in unison and they act decisively. The individual is NOT king there. And that's the way we should be.

No, you are confusing two points I made. The first was just a musing, that if Asian countries had more exposure to CV type viruses, are their immune systems stronger against them. No idea, but the logic is there, if the science isnt. Think Europeans travelling the globe a few hundred years ago and wiping out local populations with the common cold.

The second was just reiterating the science that immune systems are inherently lazy. They need training to repulse new viruses, then reminders, hence the flu boost every year. This vax roll out is the first step to protect the body in the here and now, but more importantly, to introduce it into the immune system so in future it just needs a flu like boost to give it a reminder.

 

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[COYBL25]

They were struck off the “ countries in vogue “ list quite a while back.

 

[davek]

India's dramatic fall in virus cases leaves experts stumped

NEW DELHI (AP) — When the coronavirus pandemic took hold in India, there were fears it would sink the fragile health system of the world’s second-most populous country.

apnews.com

You think India as a population is more disciplined or organises itself better? Recently they’ve had less cases on average per day than we have even in week 7 of our lockdown. There clearly are other factors at play and related herd immunity is a proposed theory.

That's an unfounded theory...and one amongst a number. There is no data to back that up.

 

[davek]

No, you are confusing two points I made. The first was just a musing, that if Asian countries had more exposure to CV type viruses, are their immune systems stronger against them. No idea, but the logic is there, if the science isnt. Think Europeans travelling the globe a few hundred years ago and wiping out local populations with the common cold.

The second was just reiterating the science that immune systems are inherently lazy. They need training to repulse new viruses, then reminders, hence the flu boost every year. This vax roll out is the first step to protect the body in the here and now, but more importantly, to introduce it into the immune system so in future it just needs a flu like boost to give it a reminder.

That's fair enough as a musing, yeah. We're all trying to understand this and explain various aspects as best we can.

As you periodically remind me, there's no room for passing anything like that off as expert understanding or advice.

 

[toffee82]

Covid: vaccinated Israelis to enjoy bars and hotels with ‘green pass’

Mobile app inoculation certificate aims to help reopen economy, but privileges are untested and raise ethical questions

www.theguardian.com

A complete betrayal of their youth.

How could this even be considered until everyone has had the opportunity to be vaccinated?
If this happened here, I wouldn't blame the youth just turning up to pubs en masse.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It`s not a question of supporting any government, Northern Irish, Welsh, English or anyone else.

It`s about you, yet again trying to pass off blatant conjecture and lies as fact, all to suit your hysterical agenda.

The trick is, knowing when to stop digging.

You really have become a parody account.

Ffs, you were that desperate to back up your lunacy, you posted an article from the Mail the other day lol

Hang on, are you saying that the @davek account isn't a chico character?

 

[roydo]

That's an unfounded theory...and one amongst a number. There is no data to back that up.

Thats how it starts, this science stuff.

"What happened there ffs?"

"Dunno, proper odd, could be X Y or Z though"

Remember back to when Aids/HIV reared its head? They saw a new thing, fiddled about in labs till they knew what caused it, then delivered proceedures and treatments. Data comes later.

 

[peteblue]

The old way:

Pubs and bars still pose Covid risk despite safety efforts, experts say

Mr Martin claimed that hospitality groups have provided the Government with information that “clearly demonstrates” that pubs and restaurants are Covid-secure environments,

www.standard.co.uk

The new way forward..

The Future of Dining Is Alfresco

Everything we know about the post-pandemic reopening of restaurants in the United States and around the world.

www.afar.com

I’m not sure we are ready for al fresco Darts matches......

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This is what societies do and have to do: adapt.

Indoor drinking and dining has to be in the past.

Even at Christmas

 

[roydo]

That's fair enough as a musing, yeah. We're all trying to understand this and explain various aspects as best we can.

As you periodically remind me, there's no room for passing anything like that off as expert understanding or advice.

To your credit, it was once, and as I fully expected, you got the gist of it, and not an issue since. Xx

 

[davek]

Thats how it starts, this science stuff.

"What happened there ffs?"

"Dunno, proper odd, could be X Y or Z though"

Remember back to when Aids/HIV reared its head? They saw a new thing, fiddled about in labs till they knew what caused it, then delivered proceedures and treatments. Data comes later.

The theory there seems to be that a country regularly exposed to diseases have a population with immune systems ready to fight off virus like Covid19.

Wouldn't that be the same in Brazil therefore, a place that has a long record of ill health caused by diseases that attack the immune system?

 

[davek]

I’m not sure we are ready for al fresco Darts matches......

Quoits might make a big comeback.

 

[Deckard2049]

Even at Christmas

Christmas will be gone in the new world. The only worship is that of the party comrade. And each morning when you rise at dawn for your work in the fields you’ll be bloody grateful.