Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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What relevance has that got to combatting the here and now of infections?

It happened. All virus start somewhere. Even western nations.

It's not about combatting the here and now. I've said the response of the government and western governments left a lot to be desired.

But you're insisting on a cultural shift for years to come. So that's not about the here and now either.

If the virus had started here, or in France or the US, because of people going to gigs or matches, then fine. But it didn't. It started in the far East, specifically either in a Wuhan wet market or lab, and recent examples of serious outbreaks also started in a similar manner in a similar part of the world.

So change how we respond to these unlikely events? Sure. But surely, the places that these things start in, because of certain conditions in the wet markets if China's claims are to be believed, are the ones which need to think of a 'cultural shift'?
 
It's not about combatting the here and now. I've said the response of the government and western governments left a lot to be desired.

But you're insisting on a cultural shift for years to come. So that's not about the here and now either.
If the virus had started here, or in France or the US, because of people going to gigs or matches, then fine. But it didn't. It started in the far East, specifically either in a Wuhan wet market or lab, and recent examples of serious outbreaks also started in a similar manner in a similar part of the world.

So change how we respond to these unlikely events? Sure. But surely, the places that these things start in, because of certain conditions in the wet markets if China's claims are to be believed, are the ones which need to think of a 'cultural shift'?

FFS.
 
Hmm...just like our own "government" who are open and honest about everything eh? :confused:

I didn't say that either.

I've explicitly said our government's response were crap.

But our government doesn't 'disappear' journalists or doctors for reporting on the outbreak of a deadly virus, either.

If it makes you feel better though, or go down Dave's route of comparing Johnson to Hitler, who murdered millions of people based on race, religion, sexual orientation or disability, go right ahead.
 
You actually denying it started in China?

I think he's denying that it was started in the labs which, fairly, we don't know - and it's why I've said a few times that i'm more inclined to believe it started in the wet markets.

Which, frankly, is just as bad.

If a part of our culture involved such mixing with livestock/animals/people or whatever, in such a confined environment, and had a demonstratable history of leading to serious illnesses spreading from them, then I'd like to think that, in 2021, as one of the world's largest economies, we'd change our ways a bit.

But no, apparently it's just western culture that has to change.
 
There was no second wave at the time I posted that.

Like I said, grow up.

There wasn't a second wave for well over a month either, even after all the eat out to help out stuff.

The very start of the second wave happened to coincide with schools and unis (imo the main one in terms of people taking stuff from one area of the nation to another) going back and the weather starting to turn in late September/early October.

Every graph shows rates of infection pretty flat from June through to late September
 
I think he's denying that it was started in the labs which, fairly, we don't know - and it's why I've said a few times that i'm more inclined to believe it started in the wet markets.

Which, frankly, is just as bad.

If a part of our culture involved such mixing with livestock/animals/people or whatever, in such a confined environment, and had a demonstratable history of leading to serious illnesses spreading from them, then I'd like to think that, in 2021, as one of the world's largest economies, we'd change our ways a bit.

But no, apparently it's just western culture that has to change.

Do we get rid of wet markets all over the world??
 
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