How are vaccines "the answer" when we can see now that they are not going to do the heavy lifting on their own?
We are going to learn the hard way in the west: get some discipline in your behaviour regarding what you do and where you go and how you approach those environments in terms of hygiene; and learn to comply with track and trace regimes, or we'll continue to see mass death.
Behavioural change + vaccines is the only way forward out of this.
needs to happen globally. Right now, wealthy countries have largely bought out the vaccine supply. Even if they are able to vaccinate large segments of their population by the end of 2021, the virus will keep circulating elsewhere and keep gaining mutations, eventually evolving so much that the original vaccines may become even less effective. Rampant spread in unvaccinated countries may very well seed new variants that come back to cause new outbreaks in vaccinated countries. As my colleague James Hamblin has written, “The countries that hoard the vaccine without a plan to help others do so at their own peril.” Taking away the virus’s chance to acquire other advantageous mutations means reducing its spread everywhere. Vaccines can be updated against any new variants, but it will be a constant race to catch up.
No. I'm suggesting a public life where we starve the virus of any chance to infect in super spreading events and where we fins another way to socially interact.
We need to look east.
What is the point then?I think you've missed his point.
Its with the close contacts where it becomes more difficult i think. I dont think we have an issue with people unfortuate to test positive. If someone feels fine and hasn't been tested I think compliance will always be tricky.
Well, it wouldn't be forever. It'd be for the foreseeable until we can find a mix of vaccines and therapeutics that can ensure we see this off like the flu.Not much point living in a world like that
They are disciplined and savvy enough to know where the time and places are to be socially interactive and 'normal', and when there's a need to be smart and safe. They have muscle memory where epidemics are concerned and it's something we need to acquire and quickly.Most countries in the east are more open than we are?
Your solution is to stay in lockdown. I do agree that we won't need another lockdown if we stay in lockdown. Thats true..
I'm not interested in that cold war BS. It's a distraction at best and a hindrance to combatting the virus at worst.Well, China not covering things up would help as well
Decreased sexual motivation and emotional satisfaction. Ffs just what we needed, Covid-19 also ruining our sex lives
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They are completely on the ball in those places and will move quickly with any sign of infections to crush it.They're having festivals in Wuhan and Japanese crowds at events are usually massive.
As far as I'm aware, they didn't stop large events for years and years after SARS, either.
So, do we?
Nobody is really saying finish the lockdown today, theres probably another 8 weeks to go before anything opens.They are disciplined and savvy enough to know where the time and places are to be socially interactive and 'normal', and when there's a need to be smart and safe. They have muscle memory where epidemics are concerned and it's something we need to acquire and quickly.
Having a government that is completely irresponsible makes that task more difficult, I grant you. Which is why they are no better than a bunch of murderers looking for short term economic activity and dispensing at the first "opprtunity" with restrictions that can keep us safe.
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