Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Wizard]

There is no evidence that the over-65 group will do well after two spaced out AZ jabs. NONE.

The Pfizer manufacturer merely states that no testing on efficacy for 3 months has been done and so cant say either way.

There is no evidence for Pfizer's jab working with a 12 week gap either. So based on your logic if people over 65 are offered a choice they should reject both. Just want to make sure that is what you are advocating?

 

[peteblue]

That finance director statement was a joke based on that "mate" of yours, pete - sorry it went above your head.

As for the rest, at the risk of thanking you for pointing it out, yes; the drug firms gave ranges. The government picked the very far end of the range. That was the point.

I know that’s why I repeated it ..... but all that aside, what is your background, and I don’t mean to criticise or make fun of anything...

 

[davek]

What about all those healthcare workers dying, and then also passing it on to other patients?

Or workers in care homes who aren't actually imprisoned in them so have lives of their own and kids to care for and may well pick it up, be asymptomatic, and go into a care home and spread it to all the old dears?

They shouldn't be prioritised?

Yes, but they were always down for the front of the queue. Those health and care workers + over 80s should have had 2 jabs. After that, if the stock was there, roll it out more generally.

 

[davek]

Well we'll soon have loads of data because loads of people are getting the jabs.

If they start dropping dead, we'll know.

But that testing on real world roll out should have been reprted in by now. The Israeli Pfizer roll out has given us feedback weeks ago.

 

[peteblue]

I imagine the uptake will be much more than 70% only for I think a lot of people are fully expecting vaccine passports to become a thing and wont want to run the risk of not being able to get to a concert/jet away in the summer

Good point....

 

[tsubaki]

I know that’s why I repeated it ..... but all that aside, what is your background, and I don’t mean to criticise or make fun of anything...

I work for one of the emergency services in London, pete.

 

[davek]

More than 86 per cent of people over 80 given first dose of vaccine

More than 105,000 people in Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire have received the first dose of the Covid vaccine.

www.northsomersettimes.co.uk

...but only 13% the second jab.

 

[BlueToff]

But that testing on real world roll out should have been reprted in by now. The Israeli Pfizer roll out has given us feedback weeks ago.

AZ only started on Jan 4th and there's 12 weeks spacing with that as evidenced in the tests.

People are getting protection. That's good.

 

[davek]

AZ only started on Jan 4th and there's 12 weeks spacing with that as evidenced in the tests.

People are getting protection. That's good.

They have data for 1st jabs that can be produced.

 

[davek]

There is no evidence for Pfizer's jab working with a 12 week gap either. So based on your logic if people over 65 are offered a choice they should reject both. Just want to make sure that is what you are advocating?

There's no evidence that Pfizer wont work with a 12 week gap (but that's an issue caused by your government).

 

[Billy Dean]

just tried out the queue calculator here https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

Probably different times for different areas but it gives me an idea when I can expect a letter for the jab
Not sure on the uptake rate though as they based this on the flu job, I think loads will have this that didn't have the flu one

Result:
Based on your profile, you are in priority Group 8, and there are between 15,580,035 and 18,693,495 people in front of you in the queue for a first dose of COVID vaccine across the UK.
Given a vaccination rate of 2,645,401 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your first dose of vaccine between 23/04/2021 and 10/05/2021.

You should then get your second dose by between 16/07/2021 and 02/08/2021.

I did the German equivalent of this. It told me if things go at the planned pace I'll get my first dose in June 2021, but if it carries on at the current pace it will be October 2023 lol

 

[arminisgod]

The gnats piss is ok for the under 65s.

my brother in law works on Vaccines for J & J. When his 73 yr old dad was called for his, he told him to get it ASAP

just leave vaccines alone ffs

 

[Wizard]

There's no evidence that Pfizer wont work with a 12 week gap (but that's an issue caused by your government).

Aren't you British? Or are you suggesting I'm a Tory? Which I'm not but I guess that's the level you are going to sink to when you can't explain a stupid point you've made

 

[davek]

my brother in law works on Vaccines for J & J. When his 73 yr old dad was called for his, he told him to get it ASAP

just leave vaccines alone ffs

He was called for a J&J vaccine?

 

[davek]

Aren't you British? Or are you suggesting I'm a Tory? Which I'm not but I guess that's the level you are going to sink to when you can't explain a stupid point you've made

They're not my government.