Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Terrible if true and the EU go with the provisional decision.


BERLIN -- A draft recommendation from Germany’s vaccination advisory committee calls for offering the AstraZeneca vaccine only to people aged 18-64 for now, citing what it says is insufficient data to judge its effectiveness for older people.

The European Medicines Agency is expected to approve the AstraZeneca vaccine for use in the 27-nation European Union on Friday. It would be the third cleared for use in the EU after the BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.


In a draft recommendation released on Thursday ahead of that decision, Germany’s permanent vaccination commission called for using AstraZeneca’s vaccine for the 18-64 age group on the basis of currently available information. It said that “there currently is not sufficient data to assess the vaccination effectiveness from 65 years.”

AstraZeneca noted earlier this week that British regulators supported its use in the older age group despite lack of late-stage effectiveness data. The company pointed to earlier-stage data published in the journal Lancet in November “demonstrating that older adults showed strong immune responses to the vaccine, with 100% of older adults generating spike-specific antibodies after the second dose.”

But questions have remained about how well the vaccine protects older people. Only 12% of participants in the AstraZeneca research were over 55 and they were enrolled later, so there hasn’t been enough time to see whether they get sick at a lower rate than those who didn’t get the vaccine.

The company said after Thursday's release of the German draft that “the latest analyses of clinical trial data for the AstraZeneca/Oxford COVID-19 vaccine support efficacy in the over 65 years age group." It added that it awaits EMA's decision.

German Health Minister Jens Spahn stressed that the committee’s recommendation isn’t its final decision, and that will be made only after the vaccine is cleared for use.

But he said there had been a discussion since autumn about there being “few data — this isn’t about bad data, but few data” in studies on the AstraZeneca vaccine’s effectiveness in older groups.


“It was to be expected that this would have an influence on the decision of the regulatory authorities and then the permanent vaccine commission,” Spahn said. “We just don’t know yet how concretely -- so let’s wait for the decision tomorrow on clearance and then the final recommendation from the permanent vaccine commission.”

When Britain approved the AstraZeneca vaccine for emergency use last month, it acknowledged that data regarding its effectiveness in older people was “limited.”

The vaccination committee, known by its German acronym STIKO, is an independent expert panel that provides advice to the government and the medical profession on which immunizations should be given to whom. It doesn't play a direct role in the vaccine approval process, but its advice determines what vaccines are considered standard for which groups, and therefore covered by health insurance.
 
Terrible if true and the EU go with the provisional decision.


BERLIN -- A draft recommendation from Germany’s vaccination advisory committee calls for offering the AstraZeneca vaccine only to people aged 18-64 for now, citing what it says is insufficient data to judge its effectiveness for older people.

The European Medicines Agency is expected to approve the AstraZeneca vaccine for use in the 27-nation European Union on Friday. It would be the third cleared for use in the EU after the BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.


In a draft recommendation released on Thursday ahead of that decision, Germany’s permanent vaccination commission called for using AstraZeneca’s vaccine for the 18-64 age group on the basis of currently available information. It said that “there currently is not sufficient data to assess the vaccination effectiveness from 65 years.”

AstraZeneca noted earlier this week that British regulators supported its use in the older age group despite lack of late-stage effectiveness data. The company pointed to earlier-stage data published in the journal Lancet in November “demonstrating that older adults showed strong immune responses to the vaccine, with 100% of older adults generating spike-specific antibodies after the second dose.”

But questions have remained about how well the vaccine protects older people. Only 12% of participants in the AstraZeneca research were over 55 and they were enrolled later, so there hasn’t been enough time to see whether they get sick at a lower rate than those who didn’t get the vaccine.

The company said after Thursday's release of the German draft that “the latest analyses of clinical trial data for the AstraZeneca/Oxford COVID-19 vaccine support efficacy in the over 65 years age group." It added that it awaits EMA's decision.

German Health Minister Jens Spahn stressed that the committee’s recommendation isn’t its final decision, and that will be made only after the vaccine is cleared for use.

But he said there had been a discussion since autumn about there being “few data — this isn’t about bad data, but few data” in studies on the AstraZeneca vaccine’s effectiveness in older groups.


“It was to be expected that this would have an influence on the decision of the regulatory authorities and then the permanent vaccine commission,” Spahn said. “We just don’t know yet how concretely -- so let’s wait for the decision tomorrow on clearance and then the final recommendation from the permanent vaccine commission.”

When Britain approved the AstraZeneca vaccine for emergency use last month, it acknowledged that data regarding its effectiveness in older people was “limited.”

The vaccination committee, known by its German acronym STIKO, is an independent expert panel that provides advice to the government and the medical profession on which immunizations should be given to whom. It doesn't play a direct role in the vaccine approval process, but its advice determines what vaccines are considered standard for which groups, and therefore covered by health insurance.
Be interesting to know what data trials they are going off, if its the same data as our government and its experts used to base their vaccine strategy, boom...
 
Be interesting to know what data trials they are going off, if its the same data as our experts used to base their vaccine strategy, boom...
It is, because they are the ones before Christmas and the Germans are not having any of it. It's a choice of who to believe.

Anyoine want to beleive any organisation connected to this government? Be my guest.
 
It is, because they are the ones before Christmas and the Germans are not having any of it. It's a choice of who to believe.

Anyoine want to beleive any organisation connected to this government? Be my guest.

That German advice body report you posted finished by stating the main reason for their advice is to ensure claims under health insurance would be met.

Hmmm.
 
Myself and @LinekersLegs were talking about it yesterday mate, AZ may have rushed to market very quickly on foot of Pfizer and Moderna. Their data seems chaotic and they stumbled across a dose system by accident - that raises huge alarm bells really in this kind of thing. The data was positive but limited in over 65s and i think that is telling in regulation especially when you consider the nature of the virus and age of the most vulnerable groups. The other thing is its the first adenovirus vaccine to look for approval the other two are Mrna and are similar, all these things will raise the risks in weighing for regulation and i suspect there might not be evidence to get it over the line and approved with over 65s. Im speculating on that - but looks like Germany have broken ranks on my suspicion.

There is a phase 3 study being done in the US ahead of an FDA application and is more inclusive of over 65s the results of that are expected in March/April, im not sure what the UK are tracking but any additional data would be welcome, first dose efficacy in that age cohort and follow up.

LL posted a good summary yesterday below:


Noticed in the interview with the AZ CEO he mentioned how Oxford Uni basically didn't want to test the vaccine on more older groups - for ethical reasons. Seems a fair approach but yeah, it's difficult.
 
Itls a very bad day for people worried about taking the AZ vaccine.

I would go with the EU decision over nay made by this government.
Ha ha. For a start the uk government doesn't give it licence for medical use

Yeah... the EU are squeaky clean when it comes to making the correct decisions.

(Let me just clear my lungs after following that 2010 audi I've just followed home).

Why don't u just post on weibo?
 
That German advice body report you posted finished by stating the main reason for their advice is to ensure claims under health insurance would be met.

Hmmm.
Well, we'll wait and see what the EU regulator says.

I'd take their guidance on any vaccine rather than any creature of this government who have demonstrated amply for almost a year how negligent they are.
 
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