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Wow lol
www.theguardian.com
EU could block millions of Covid vaccine doses from entering UK
European commission says new mechanism will give national regulators power to refuse exports
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WHO team exits Wuhan quarantine to start Covid fact-finding mission
Mission is politically charged as China seeks to avoid blame for alleged missteps in response to outbreak
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It’s important to say this is not a step towards a paywall.No, of course it isn't
...meanwhile, back on topic.
Like the Chinese are going to cough to anything
In n.i they opened an online booking for vaccines for the 65 to 69 age groups. They are getting the pfizer jag in a vaccine centre. Got my mother booked in today. My father who is 70 has to wait untill he gets a gp letter. He is getting the Oxford one.
I challenge you to watch this without screaming at your screen.
These people, these idiotic conspiracy loons need locking in a room until this pandemic is over.
Have to give full props to all the NHS staff who are calmly dealing with these stupid d***heads on a daily basis.
I challenge you to watch this without screaming at your screen.
These people, these idiotic conspiracy loons need locking in a room until this pandemic is over.
Have to give full props to all the NHS staff who are calmly dealing with these stupid d***heads on a daily basis.
That person calling it a hoax had a new years eve house party with quite a few guests.
Absolute idiots.
HSE aware of German decision on Astrazeneca vaccine but will follow EMA advice on over 65s
The EMA is expected to make a decision on approval tomorrow and will issue guidance on use of the vaccine.
www.thejournal.ie
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Yikes!
HSE aware of German decision on Astrazeneca vaccine but will follow EMA advice on over 65s
The EMA is expected to make a decision on approval tomorrow and will issue guidance on use of the vaccine.
Well, that's on them, hopefully soon the data will be there and they can get it out into circulation, but they at least have plenty of Pfizer and Moderna secured.
Now the data is gonna have to come from the UK - which we'll hopefully start seeing in the coming weeks - for its efficacy on older groups. Only been in circulation 23 days, so it's around about now that we should start seeing data? Suppose it's hard to tell whether lockdown or vaccination (and a lot of that will have been Pfizer at the start) is what's having an impact on the decrease in infections.
Its not good news at all mate - for Europe or the UK - be surprised if this isnt the consensus with the EMA tomorrow.
There is a bigger trial in the US at the moment with over 65s but i think we are looking at March/April for results of that.
Its approved in the Uk for emergency use presently, AZ still have to get it through full regulation in the UK to as far as i know, but you lads in the UK might know more then me.
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In France they started a vaccination scheme by appointment, a couple of weeks ago. It is for over 75s and other specified people.
Jabs to be done mainly at hospitals and medical centres.
Problem is that appointment has to be made by phone or on line.
It is still not possible to get an appointment at any place within 1 hour of here. This is widespread regardless of region.
There are plenty of centres but a shortage of vaccine and official sources won't admit it.
The patience of people is wearing thin, especially as further lockdown is rumoured due to the rapid spread of the English varient.
Not sure on that so I can't comment mate but no, isn't good if that is the case. However, it seems the argument from the Germany regulator is that there isn't enough testing data. Well, that can hopefully be benefited by results from the UK starting to now be seen? Or will they have to wait until there's a second dose of it given to enough people?
Myself and @LinekersLegs were talking about it yesterday mate, AZ may have rushed to market very quickly on foot of Pfizer and Moderna. Their data seems chaotic and they stumbled across a dose system by accident - that raises huge alarm bells really in this kind of thing. The data was positive but limited in over 65s and i think that is telling in regulation especially when you consider the nature of the virus and age of the most vulnerable groups. The other thing is its the first adenovirus vaccine to look for approval the other two are Mrna and are similar, all these things will raise the risks in weighing for regulation and i suspect there might not be evidence to get it over the line and approved with over 65s. Im speculating on that - but looks like Germany have broken ranks on my suspicion.
There is a phase 3 study being done in the US ahead of an FDA application and is more inclusive of over 65s the results of that are expected in March/April, im not sure what the UK are tracking but any additional data would be welcome, first dose efficacy in that age cohort and follow up.
LL posted a good summary yesterday below:
When will AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine be available in the US?
It's unlikely AstraZeneca's vaccine will be authorized in the US before April. Nearly 30,000 people are volunteering to try it out first.
www.businessinsider.com
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The one thing I don't get about this piece is the wife saying "the government is to blame for the deaths after allowing people to visit other homes at Christmas" At the end of the day it was their decision to meet up and something they didn't have to do.
A woman says her life has been ruined after four members of her family died from COVID following a Christmas Day meet-up.
Tracy Latham has been left devastated after her partner, his parents and his uncle all passed away after catching the disease.
The family, who had been shielding since March, met up on Christmas Day after the government relaxed COVID rules and allowed households to meet for one day.
Latham, from Mackworth, Derby, described the loss of her partner, 48-year-old Darren Fisher, is “horrendous”.
The pair had been due to get married in July this year after spending 12 years together, during which time Fisher helped raise three of Latham’s children from a previous relationship.
Latham, 50, claims her partner caught COVID when he went to his parents' house in Allenton for just two hours.
She says that time together was enough for him and several family members to contract the disease, something she thinks would not have happened if the government had stopped people meeting on Christmas Day.
Over the course of the following week, Fisher, his parents Pat and David Fisher, aged 79 and 82, and his uncle, Michael Wilson, who was in his early 70s, all tested positive for the disease.
All of them have now passed away and another of Darren Fisher’s uncles, Geoffrey, who also caught the disease, is recovering after becoming seriously ill.
Latham, who is unable to work because of a long-term health condition, says the only other member of the family who had an underlying health condition was Fisher’s mother, who had diabetes.
Opening up about her losses, Latham said: "We don't really know who passed it on.
"Nobody was ill – Mick had a bit of a tickle, but that was all…
“They spent the day together – Pat and David, and Michael and his partner Gladys.
"Darren popped in to them for a couple of hours to say hi, as they hadn't seen each other for ages. It was a quick flying visit at around 9pm."
Things began to go wrong when Pat Fisher, who fell and hurt her leg on Boxing Day, was admitted to the Royal Derby Hospital on 27 December.
Latham said: ”She began to feel tired and rundown. A few days later, she tested positive for coronavirus as her condition got worse."
Her positive test result came through just days after arriving at hospital, ruling out the possibility of her catching it on the ward.
Things then got worse when Fisher began to display symptoms of the disease and he “began to struggle to breathe”.
He was later placed on a ventilator for nine days but he died on 11 January – without knowing that his mother and father had already died days earlier.
His uncle died several days later.
David Fisher, who was in a care home being treated for dementia, tested positive for COVID after he died and Latham believes he is the person who passed it onto Geoffrey Fisher, who went round to help him while Pat Fisher was in hospital.
Latham says the government is to blame for the deaths after allowing people to visit other homes at Christmas.
She said: ”The government hasn't done enough – the lockdown was too little too late.”
Four members of same family die from COVID after Christmas Day meet-up
A woman says her life has been ruined after four members of her family died from COVID following a Christmas Day meet-up.
Tracy Latham has been left devastated after her partner, his parents and his uncle all passed away after catching the disease.
The family, who had been shielding since March, met up on Christmas Day after the government relaxed COVID rules and allowed households to meet for one day.
Latham, from Mackworth, Derby, described the loss of her partner, 48-year-old Darren Fisher, is “horrendous”.
The pair had been due to get married in July this year after spending 12 years together, during which time Fisher helped raise three of Latham’s children from a previous relationship.
Latham, 50, claims her partner caught COVID when he went to his parents' house in Allenton for just two hours.
She says that time together was enough for him and several family members to contract the disease, something she thinks would not have happened if the government had stopped people meeting on Christmas Day.
Over the course of the following week, Fisher, his parents Pat and David Fisher, aged 79 and 82, and his uncle, Michael Wilson, who was in his early 70s, all tested positive for the disease.
All of them have now passed away and another of Darren Fisher’s uncles, Geoffrey, who also caught the disease, is recovering after becoming seriously ill.
Latham, who is unable to work because of a long-term health condition, says the only other member of the family who had an underlying health condition was Fisher’s mother, who had diabetes.
Opening up about her losses, Latham said: "We don't really know who passed it on.
"Nobody was ill – Mick had a bit of a tickle, but that was all…
“They spent the day together – Pat and David, and Michael and his partner Gladys.
"Darren popped in to them for a couple of hours to say hi, as they hadn't seen each other for ages. It was a quick flying visit at around 9pm."
Things began to go wrong when Pat Fisher, who fell and hurt her leg on Boxing Day, was admitted to the Royal Derby Hospital on 27 December.
Latham said: ”She began to feel tired and rundown. A few days later, she tested positive for coronavirus as her condition got worse."
Her positive test result came through just days after arriving at hospital, ruling out the possibility of her catching it on the ward.
Things then got worse when Fisher began to display symptoms of the disease and he “began to struggle to breathe”.
He was later placed on a ventilator for nine days but he died on 11 January – without knowing that his mother and father had already died days earlier.
His uncle died several days later.
David Fisher, who was in a care home being treated for dementia, tested positive for COVID after he died and Latham believes he is the person who passed it onto Geoffrey Fisher, who went round to help him while Pat Fisher was in hospital.
Latham says the government is to blame for the deaths after allowing people to visit other homes at Christmas.
She said: ”The government hasn't done enough – the lockdown was too little too late.”
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