Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

My missus has been drafted on to the covid wards at whiston hospital to help due to staff shortages (covid related). The wards are all full with covid patients and her ward only has 2 people over 60. The youngest patient in there is 26.

It is undoubtably affecting younger people more this time and lots do require hospitalisation.

My housemate works on the covid wards in Sheffield and has treated one person under 30 - and they were 25 stone. Fortunately, they lived.

My point being, there's no set in stone rule for this (which is a worry). But you are much more likely to be able to not have to be in hospital if you're younger/no conditions. It's the underlying conditions that are the worst factor - again it's what the virus can attack. I think the other day when 1600+ deaths were reported over the 28-day cut off, approx 30 had no underlying conditions. That's 2%, tops, and I don't think 'underlying conditions' will include stuff like smoking etc which sadly will be a massive contributor if your lungs are knackered.

Not saying this shouldn't be taken seriously or anything or saying you're wrong.

Perhaps more younger people are getting the virus now as they are the ones out and about - are they the ones working still in terms of going into places? I don't know, we'd need to see the proper figures. It could also be that to be cautious (rather be safe than sorry) they are getting people into the wards to make sure they have the care they need?

 

[BlueToff]

Anyway, all this talk of holding government to account etc - I agree with.

But, there's only one place and one government that needs holding to account first.

China were either trying to develop something and it's gone horridly wrong, or their disgusting culture of wet markets has caused a catastrophe.

Either way, something needs to be done, because they covered it up.

 

[Goat]

Anyway, all this talk of holding government to account etc - I agree with.

But, there's only one place and one government that needs holding to account first.

China were either trying to develop something and it's gone horridly wrong, or their disgusting culture of wet markets has caused a catastrophe.

Either way, something needs to be done, because they covered it up.

China is not responsible for the deaths of 100,000 people in the UK.

 

[peteblue]

Spoke to my eldest brother earlier who is 73. He and his missus are getting their jabs on Monday and are booked in for April for the follow up. If they can keep the daily figure around £359k they should meet their school half term target.

Not sure everywhere is so far advanced though. Down here in Cornwall they have nowhere near finished the over 80s yet. Probably due to the demographics down here but you'd have thought that would /should have been covered off in their planning.

There will be regional variances. I think our lot in the Midlands are still working their way through the over 80’s, but tbh, the vaccination numbers each day are giving people confidence (obviously not the miserable buggers on here who just want to nail the government). The wife and I are in group 5 and will be done whenever they are ready......

 

[peteblue]

China is not responsible for the deaths of 100,000 people in the UK.

Yes they are, and for the other 2,000,000 people dead around the world. Not even you can blame Boris for those numbers.....

 

[navidson]

China is not responsible for the deaths of 100,000 people in the UK.

Really?

 

[BlueToff]

China is not responsible for the deaths of 100,000 people in the UK.

Well I mean, the disease that has killed or contributed to the deaths of those people came from a Wuhan lab or wet market (or both). They blocked the WHO (so much so that the WHO claimed on Jan 11th last year that there was no evidence of human-to-human spread), they imprisoned/'disappeared' doctors and journalists reporting on it and have quite clearly lied about the amount of deaths they've had.

So, yes, that government is quite literally responsible for the very onset of the thing which has completely ravaged the world.

They are of course not responsible for the shoddy, dangerous response of the government here or idiots doing idiotic things (protests (apart from BLM though cause apparently COVID can see if the cause is just), weddings, raves, gangbangs, back sack and crack parlours, title celebrations etc etc).

Bit of both, no?

 

[Goat]

Really?

Do the Chinese government rule this country?

Did the Chinese government see what was happening across Europe and keep everything open?
Did the Chinese government lockdown 6 weeks too late in March and again in January?
Did the Chinese government 12months after a pandemic start think "Oh, maybe its time we closed some borders".
Did the Chinese government tell everybody to eat out help out?

If the answer to these questions is yes, then its totally Chinas fault.

 

[BlueToff]

For clarity, I'd like to see Johnson and co. ousted at the very first opportunity and 'held to account' (whatever that means). But we live in a democracy so not really sure how that happens until there's an election and then we need an opposition who presents a viable alternative and not the shambles we had in 2019.

But in terms of China's government, I think the world's superpowers need to very much 'hold them to account'.

 

[Goat]

Well I mean, the disease that has killed or contributed to the deaths of those people came from a Wuhan lab or wet market (or both). They blocked the WHO (so much so that the WHO claimed on Jan 11th last year that there was no evidence of human-to-human spread), they imprisoned/'disappeared' doctors and journalists reporting on it and have quite clearly lied about the amount of deaths they've had.

So, yes, that government is quite literally responsible for the very onset of the thing which has completely ravaged the world.

They are of course not responsible for the shoddy, dangerous response of the government here or idiots doing idiotic things (protests (apart from BLM though cause apparently COVID can see if the cause is just), weddings, raves, gangbangs, back sack and crack parlours, title celebrations etc etc).

Bit of both, no?

No.

China lie and China hide.

Our government was told around January that this was serious, very serious, they waited 2 months before they did anything.

You cant blame China, I know people like to, cos racism, but they didn't invent Corona.

 

[BlueToff]

Do the Chinese government rule this country?

Did the Chinese government see what was happening across Europe and keep everything open?
Did the Chinese government lockdown 6 weeks too late in March and again in January?
Did the Chinese government 12months after a pandemic start think "Oh, maybe its time we closed some borders".
Did the Chinese government tell everybody to eat out help out?

If the answer to these questions is yes, then its totally Chinas fault.

No, but they did

- Block the WHO investigation (twice)
- Imprison doctors and journalists
- Lie, over and over again (I know our mob did that too)
- Try and make out that a blogger in Wuhan writing about life in lockdown was a CIA spy

 

[navidson]

Do the Chinese government rule this country?

Did the Chinese government see what was happening across Europe and keep everything open?
Did the Chinese government lockdown 6 weeks too late in March and again in January?
Did the Chinese government 12months after a pandemic start think "Oh, maybe its time we closed some borders".
Did the Chinese government tell everybody to eat out help out?

If the answer to these questions is yes, then its totally Chinas fault.

The only question that needs to be asked is :

Did the Chinese Government KNOW that they had somehow created a killer virus and fail to tell anybody else before it was too late - therefore allowing people to travel from the Wuhan region and ultimately kill 2,122,886 people (as of today)?

 

[BlueToff]

No.

China lie and China hide.

Our government was told around January that this was serious, very serious, they waited 2 months before they did anything.

You cant blame China, I know people like to, cos racism, but they didn't invent Corona.

I think we can blame the UK gov for their response and blame China for the fact that this happened in the first place.

 

[BlueToff]

The only question that needs to be asked is :

Did the Chinese Government KNOW that they had somehow created a killer virus and fail to tell anybody else before it was too late - therefore allowing people to travel from the Wuhan region and ultimately kill 2,122,886 people (as of today)?

Also they happened to keep their whole nation open for Chinese New Year.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Possibly yes.

But had they kept London and the SE in Tier 3 in December, for example, that'd have been a good start, wouldn't it.

It would, yes