So there's no chance making cars in Halewood during a lockdown can happen then ?....
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erm.grandjoeblue
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Its not really a loophole though is it, its exactly what the government advice says. Any food place stays open and all manufacturing/construction should continue.
I don't really see the problem with having B&M etc open as if they close it just results in more people in supermarkets.
I don't really see the problem with having B&M etc open as if they close it just results in more people in supermarkets.
Point being its not a Lockdown is it ?
grandjoeblue
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The government have put it in place. I've always thought its open to interpretation a lot. Loads of people just essentially carry on as normal.
Exactly
Meanwhile this virus can feast on all the factories & workplaces that remain open.
They then take it home , rinse & repeat.
What are we told , STAY AT HOME.
Lockdown my a.rse.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
A little good news amongst the gloom.
www.bbc.co.uk
Two more life-saving Covid drugs discovered
The drugs, which save an extra life for every 12 intensive care patients treated, can be used immediately, say experts.
www.bbc.co.uk
BlueStevie35
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Only actual supermarkets and pharmacies should be open in all reality
grandjoeblue
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Corner shops should be open I think.
The problem is the supermarket would be absolutely rammed if you closed all other food options.
roydo
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Garages/petrol stations? Pretty important.
On line deliveries have, predictably, gone nuts as well. So thats depots, drivers, and support staff in there. Same with the Royal Mail.
Its not that easy.
Toast
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I ordered a Maccies breakfast this morning to be delivered to my house.
Not a real lockdown that is it.
Tasted ace though as not had one for ages.
arminisgod
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The army have been into my work today, to help set up the mass testing. They are showing 3 staff members (HR) how to do the quick fire tests.
Only problem is... the company can choose who gets tested and have made it clear in private that any essential staff won't be allowed it in case they have it.
Not sure everyone is singing off the same hymn sheet here...
Only problem is... the company can choose who gets tested and have made it clear in private that any essential staff won't be allowed it in case they have it.
Not sure everyone is singing off the same hymn sheet here...
roydo
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Supermarkets seem fine. Been in yours and Sainsburys the last few days, and no significant space on shelves. Well, I am convinced that your lot have a far better stock control/ordering than Sainsburys, so space on their shelves at times has always happened.
Toast
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I’m back working late tonight as had to look after kids this morning.
Our stock levels are absolutely fine.
The point made earlier about shops like The Range etc is valid.
We shut our second floor during original lockdown. That’s were most non food items are, electricals, clothing etc. Yet The Range down the road stayed open selling the same.
Now, from a business point of view, you’re not going to lose money to a rival are you ? Hence why we reopened it all again.
Not if we learn from our mistakes. surely?
While they have gone against evidence for the Pfizer one, it appears that the longer gap between the doses for the Oxford Vaccine could actually be a benefit.
I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong, btw. They are doing it to get more people vaccinated quickly - that's a good thing. However, are they risking the vaccinations not been as effective by doing that? Pfizer say so, so in that sense they are risking it. However, the Oxford vaccine, there doesn't appear to be a risk with that. However, the numbers tested weren't as great as the Pfizer one.
Covid-19 vaccination: What’s the evidence for extending the dosing interval?
On 30 December the four UK chief medical officers announced that the second doses of the covid vaccines should be given towards the end of 12 weeks rather than in the previously recommended 3-4 weeks. Gareth Iacobucci and Elisabeth Mahase look at the questions this has raised In a letter sent...
What’s the evidence for changing the schedule?
There isn’t much for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, as trials did not compare different dose spacing or compare one with two doses. The trials of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine did include different spacing between doses, finding that a longer gap (two to three months) led to a greater immune response, but the overall participant numbers were small. In the UK study 59% (1407 of 2377) of the participants who had two standard doses received the second dose between nine and 12 weeks after the first. In the Brazil study only 18.6% (384 of 2063) received a second dose between nine and 12 weeks after the first. The combined trial results, published in the Lancet, found that vaccine efficacy 14 days after a second dose was higher in the group that had more than six weeks between the two doses (65.4%) than in the group that had less than six weeks between doses (53.4%)......Stephen Evans, professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said, “In an ideal world, decisions about treatments would only be made within the exact parameters of the trials which have been conducted. In the real world, this is never so . . . We know that vaccinating only half of a vulnerable population will lead to a notable increase in cases of covid-19, with all that this entails, including deaths. When resources of doses and people to vaccinate are limited, then vaccinating more people with potentially less efficacy is demonstrably better than a fuller efficacy in only half.”
Also, while I appreciate you rightly hate our government, we aren't the only country to be doing it.
Denmark on Monday approved a lag of up to six weeks between the first and second shots of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, Reuters reported, although the vaccine is meant to to be given in doses three weeks apart. Germany and Ireland are considering similar moves.
All we can do now is get people vaccinated. The sooner that happens, the better. The evidence suggests the Oxford vaccine will be stronger for it, though we will of course not know for sure until further down the line. Same with Pfizer.
Is it a political decision? Well, every decision taken by a government is political. It's why I hate those idiots who accused Starmer of 'playing politics' calling for stricter measures back in autumn. It's his job to play politics, he's a politician.
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