Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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davek said:
It's a political decision over-ruling a medical one.

This government are renegades.
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Without question a throw of the dice... Fine for the fully consented poorly individual deliberating risky operation for better outcomes. Certainly not for mass vaccination program.
And organisations such as World Health Organisation, refusing back such spacing should be a salient warning.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
Without question a throw of the dice... Fine for the fully consented poorly individual deliberating risky operation for better outcomes. Certainly not for mass vaccination program.
And organisations such as World Health Organisation, refusing back such spacing should be a salient warning.
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It's appalling. The people being vaccinated right now must have it in the back of the minds that the vaccine will give them a handful of weeks protection of some sort, but then they'll be waiting on a second shot that wont come until some not specified moment in the future which may not be a booster of anything much.

The anti-vaxx movement are going to be emboldened by this. And you could understand some decent people too who might make the calculation that keeping their appointment for a jab might not be worth the risk of turning up for such a possible/probable low yield.
 
Hospital figures - 805 deaths were announced today, up 26 on yesterday and up 162 on last Thursday. 661 deaths were in English hospitals, down 13 on yesterday and up 132 on last week. The 7 day rolling average rises to 574.57

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 1162 deaths were announced today, up 121 on yesterday and up 198 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 713.71

For the 60 day cut off, 1279 deaths were announced today, up 131 on yesterday and up 193 on last Thursday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 784.86
 
davek said:
It's appalling. The people being vaccinated right now must have it in the back of the minds that the vaccine will give them a handful of weeks protection of some sort, but then they'll be waiting on a second shot that wont come until some not specified moment in the future which may not be a booster of anything much.

The anti-vaxx movement are going to be emboldened by this. And you could understand some decent people too who might make the calculation that keeping their appointment for a jab might not be worth the risk of turning up for such a possible/probable low yield.
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The Francis Crick Institute, Operation Warp Speed, the US government’s vaccine procurement and development programme and Yale School of Public Health, amongst our scientists not favoured by current government have all warned of the gamble.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
The Francis Crick Institute, Operation Warp Speed, the US government’s vaccine procurement and development programme and Yale School of Public Health, amongst our scientists not favoured by current government have all warned of the gamble.
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Banana Republic.

I cant understand why that description seem to irk or anger some people on here; it's absolutley spot on, even if I do say so myself.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
The Francis Crick Institute, Operation Warp Speed, the US government’s vaccine procurement and development programme and Yale School of Public Health, amongst our scientists not favoured by current government have all warned of the gamble.
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As I have stressed - unless you've got me on ignore - it appears the Oxford vaccine was tested with 12 weeks spacing and was more effective with 12 weeks as opposed to a shorter spacing.

I think going against the advice/evidence on the Pfizer one is wrong, but the spacing on the Oxford vaccine seems to be more effective over a longer period.

Combined with the Oxford vaccine being easier to store, in theory, then that should help more people get vaccinated quickly.
 
BlueToff said:
I don't like them either, and I also strongly disagree with police on the streets locking people in their homes.

However, people in here - and on Twitter - have called for it. As a rule of thumb, they're people who are also strongly left-leaning in their views - which is fine, I believe i'm fairly left wing and liberal. I just don't fully bow to socialism being the answer etc.

My point was people of that pov tend to just automatically agree with anything this government does. Sometimes fairly so. But in this case, if they did introduce this, then it'd be exactly what some people have been calling for.
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I meant 'automatically disagree'
 
BlueToff said:
I don't like them either, and I also strongly disagree with police on the streets locking people in their homes.

However, people in here - and on Twitter - have called for it. As a rule of thumb, they're people who are also strongly left-leaning in their views - which is fine, I believe i'm fairly left wing and liberal. I just don't fully bow to socialism being the answer etc.

My point was people of that pov tend to just automatically agree with anything this government does. Sometimes fairly so. But in this case, if they did introduce this, then it'd be exactly what some people have been calling for.
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I wasn’t expecting many to take on my post due to some of the far right tactics people have been promoting yet claiming to the second coming of Fidel Castro.
 
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