Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Noisy noise annoys]

You’ll be able to move around a lot more freely though, as those groups that are at most risk will have been vaccinated.

Oh,it is cool. I am happy

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Tier 5 for me I think. But count yourself lucky that you are mid forties and healthy. Meanwhile, the rates per 100k seem to be reducing and the vaccination is being rolled out. When the Oxford vaccination is approved there will no doubt be widespread jabs given by your local GP. The numbers will build up quite quickly I would think. Hopefully we will see the back of this before too many more die from it.....

Indeed, I am not too arsed about the vaccs tbh

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

And the Oscar goes to...

 

[ToffeeTim]

I thought the vaccinators were the first to get it?

I think they are, that's what's starting in Belfast today.

 

[gonetomorrow]

All this is of course a terrific shot in the arm for poshboy band The Vaccines. They'll be back up to tier one of the charts in no time.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I mean, this is gonna sound blunt again, but it’s not the care home residents who are at risk of catching covid in terms of those being the source of an outbreak.

a lot still aren’t allowed visitors outside of a bubble, if at all (depends on the care home). That’s obviously a risk, but the main risk to bringing covid into a home is the staff.

they get tested weekly, again depending on the care home but the vast majority weekly, so surely if it’s to ringfence care home patients, the priority should be getting the staff vaccinated?

They need to vaccinate the residents and staff. It's not been fair having people kept away from their families since March.

Ringfencing is a word that's thrown around, but it's not that simple at all. You have to look at the effect of loneliness on these people too. They deserve some form of interaction with their children, and wider family etc.

 

[BlueToff]

A 90-year old is at risk of dying from this thing, why's it weird they're given the vaccine first?

It’s not. But the 90-year-old is surely less of a risk of spreading this thing to other patients than a member of staff who lives away from the care home, goes to the supermarket etc etc?

If you target the likely source of a potential outbreak first, isn’t that likely to save more lives?

 

[BlueToff]

They need to vaccinate the residents and staff. It's not been fair having people kept away from their families since March.

Ringfencing is a word that's thrown around, but it's not that simple at all. You have to look at the effect of loneliness on these people too. They deserve some form of interaction with their children, and wider family etc.

Yep, totally understand that. I suppose I meant it in the way of is it likely to save more lives in the next few months if the residents or staff are the ones who get vaccinated first? That was my point. Appreciate it needs both groups to be vaccinated to work fully!

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Christ we'll be playing at Bramley Moore by the time I get offered the vaccine

 

[Moomin]

Yep, totally understand that. I suppose I meant it in the way of is it likely to save more lives in the next few months if the residents or staff are the ones who get vaccinated first? That was my point. Appreciate it needs both groups to be vaccinated to work fully!

I think front line staff in the NHS and care homes should be vaccinated first. Keep the essential work force protected and it also stops them spreading it to people who they are in contact with.

 

[gonetomorrow]

I keep thinking I must have reached the limit of my dislike for him but then he produces more ammunition.

He should be quarantined for spreading a deadly new virus, the symptoms of which involve sudden convulsions of laughter followed by a desperate dash to the toilet.

 

[Nymzee]

It’s not. But the 90-year-old is surely less of a risk of spreading this thing to other patients than a member of staff who lives away from the care home, goes to the supermarket etc etc?

If you target the likely source of a potential outbreak first, isn’t that likely to save more lives?

Vaccinate a 90-year old woman = definitely save 1 life.

Vaccinate a carehome worker = possibly save some lives, possibly won't make a difference.

World needs to work on certainties not possibilities.

 

[BlueToff]

I think front line staff in the NHS and care homes should be vaccinated first. Keep the essential work force protected and it also stops them spreading it to people who they are in contact with.

Exactly - and I think that is what’s happening generally - but surely the staff are at more risk of contracting this than the residents in terms of just picking it up in every day life.

the residents, bless them, are in those care homes all day. It’s awful, I hate the places but my mum works around them and I have friends who do too. Those residents aren’t going anywhere, but the staff are. In theory, if the staff are vaccinated first, that should surely reduce the risk of transmission more than the residents? Not just in the care homes, but in the wider community too?

forgive me but I’m just being very cynical of what appears to be a blatant PR stunt

 

[BlueToff]

Vaccinate a 90-year old woman = definitely save 1 life.

Vaccinate a carehome worker = possibly save some lives, possibly won't make a difference.

World needs to work on certainties not possibilities.

Ey?

Vaccinate a 90-year-old, you’ve saved a 90-year-old from covid (when the vaccine works - and she won’t be fully dosed up for another month, that’s how long it takes to work).

vaccinate a member of staff that looks after 9-10 90-year-olds, plus perhaps takes their kids to school, plus goes to the shops... you’re probably more likely to save more lives?

they all need vaccinating ASAP, it’s surely just more sensible to start with people who are mixing community with care homes to save more lives as quickly as possible?

 

[roydo]

Perfectly happy for the folk who vax millions every year to decide who gets it, and in what order.