Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Not seen either of them. Trying to apply some level of objectivity to the noise.

It's frustrating, because the message that we need to control hospital admissions is the right one.

But Vallance stood up in front of the country on Saturday and showed a graph of four worst case scenarios. Those scenarios had a start date of 9th October, so three weeks before the briefing, and, though the details are hazy, it seems like the scenarios took very little notice of the likely effect of adding areas to Tier 2 and 3.

One of the scenarios had a "best" estimate of a peak of 4000 deaths a day. But that scenario had predicted roughly 800 deaths a day on the day the briefing was given, when the actual number of deaths was between 200 and 250 so it was plainly an outlier. You have to be a special kind of fuckwit to leave a plainly wrong scenario in your slides, but today, in committee, Vallance was still trying to justify it.

The next slide he showed was a six week projection of hospital admissions. The slide was fine, but plainly contradicted the data being shown in at least two of the previous worst case scenarios. Again, it was a really basic error.

More generally, between them, Whitty and Vallance showed 15+ slides on Saturday and flew through them. It was a massive death by Powerpoint experience which was hard for data nerds like me to take in, never mind the general public. Granted the briefing had been brought forward, but some of the holes in their part of it were so gaping that Junior Scientists would have been embarrased to have been caught giving it, never mind the two top scientific/medical advisors.

TL;DR ?

They fooked it up.
 
I'm not missing the point just enjoying two Tory's Wums echoing to each other. It's amusing is all.
You’re extremely boring

I’m just trying to establish who people - who like yourself at least act like they know it all - think is responsible for the PPE from trust to trust?

Is it a supply issue, is it the government, is it the individual trusts doing things differently? It’s a reasonable question and one I don’t know the answer to.
 
It's frustrating, because the message that we need to control hospital admissions is the right one.

But Vallance stood up in front of the country on Saturday and showed a graph of four worst case scenarios. Those scenarios had a start date of 9th October, so three weeks before the briefing, and, though the details are hazy, it seems like the scenarios took very little notice of the likely effect of adding areas to Tier 2 and 3.

One of the scenarios had a "best" estimate of a peak of 4000 deaths a day. But that scenario had predicted roughly 800 deaths a day on the day the briefing was given, when the actual number of deaths was between 200 and 250 so it was plainly an outlier. You have to be a special kind of fuckwit to leave a plainly wrong scenario in your slides, but today, in committee, Vallance was still trying to justify it.

The next slide he showed was a six week projection of hospital admissions. The slide was fine, but plainly contradicted the data being shown in at least two of the previous worst case scenarios. Again, it was a really basic error.

More generally, between them, Whitty and Vallance showed 15+ slides on Saturday and flew through them. It was a massive death by Powerpoint experience which was hard for data nerds like me to take in, never mind the general public. Granted the briefing had been brought forward, but some of the holes in their part of it were so gaping that Junior Scientists would have been embarrased to have been caught giving it, never mind the two top scientific/medical advisors.

TL;DR ?

They fooked it up.
I've seen the scenarios, colleagues have suggested the performance was a bit of a clown show.
 
Given we are 2 days away from mass testing in Liverpool.

It's a bit quiet on the information front about it isn't it?

Like how is it going to work? Where will it specifically be , when should we start going etc.
 
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