Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Neiler said:
Ive been surprised by our figures, that is a big drop in a week and half lets ee if its sustainable i was staggered by our drop yesterday, its almost a 60% drop in a week and half. We did have high restrictions in some places like Dublin prior to this as early as mid Sept. We are further along then most EU countries to go into lock downs and to early to say whether the circuit breaker is a success.

I think some of the differences from March to Oct has been or knowledge of what protects us, masks, ventilation, etc, there is so much we didnt know then, i think of some of the things i was doing in work even with PPE and im amazed i dodged the virus back in the early days compared to what we are doing now. Perhaps this may make lockdowns more expedient. So perhaps that may help reduce the time line of a circuit breaker. The virus wont be eradicated as we know, but it might be manageable for the winter - that is the objective.

I think this lock down is more significant then one in the Spring to be honest, if we can bring what we know to bare and its bought into i think you have to look at giving people Xmas, i think in good faith people will be motivated to that and will assist the effort. Id agree for the UK four weeks is to short, i think minimum 6 weeks, the UK modeling looks scary. Remember the cases announced today were seeded 7- 14 days ago. 6 weeks minimum in my opinion.

Think if we get the winter lock down right, we might get through to March before the next, depending on what happens with a vaccine. I dont see a vaccine for the general public until this time next year and that is the earliest based on if one is made available this Dec/Jan will take a good 10-12 months for it to be available for the rank and file in Boots or wherever. Look at the flu vaccine this year, so many struggling to get it.
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I think a vaccine gets through to the most vulnerable before then. Yes, a general roll out across the world popualtion is going to take time. But I'd hope for a couple of vaccines to be past phase 3 and in production and rolled out by late spring. Ilm well aware that a lot of vaccine talk is to pacify and give hope, and I always thought this side of 2021 was bogus as a claim for roll out. But something will be there by the spring.

As for this Christmas. It's a huge corporate event. I place no store in it and most people see it that way too. There's nothing to stop people celebrating Christmas if the shops are shut. Online is there if they want gifts and Christmas means that to them. Meeting people outdoors might be relaxed to allow for contact. But I dont see the the fatality rate coming down quickly in the middle of winter to justify an end to a lockdown. And then there's the psychological issue of allowing people back into circulation again and then asking them to go back into lockdown in the new year. That's just fantasy. People wont wear those type of rapid twists and turns.

IMO this lockdown ends a month or two into the new year. Past the end of the traditional peak flu period and when we can look at getting back outdoors again.
 
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Wizard said:
Thing is Tier 3 doesn't help Christmas as households still can't mix. Think it's far more likely they give us a day or two holiday from restrictions for Christmas and Boxing Day
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No I know.. there isn't going to be a Christmas. They'll never just say 'oh go on, have a few days off over Christmas, the coronas won't get you..'
 
mill said:
so your argument is that the actual number of cases is falling even though the number of cases testing positive is increasing at an relatively stable rate of growth?

That’s your counter argument?
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No - try reading it again. I said that was something I was NOT saying!
 
Cool_Blue said:
Bristol illegal rave attended by 700 people

lol lol lol

Doesn’t matter who’s in charge with a country full of ‘kin idiots like this
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I live in Bristol city centre by the harbour and there's been zero social distancing in parks and streets for months.
I think because our area was hit with relatively few cases in comparison until recently people have become lackadaisical with measures outside supermarkets where mask use is almost universal.

The R number here is rising exponentially unfortunately, a lockdown has been on the cards for weeks and should have been done a while back.

It looks like it is driven mainly by the throngs of students however there's little social distancing done by a lot of locals either. My partner works for the Crisis Team in South Bristol and she says areas like Hartcliffe for the majority haven't bothered with masks. Every Tom, Richard and Harry with a personality disorder, asthma or an anxiety condition is desperate to prove that they are special and exempt from wearing a mask. These people are social terrorists and should be treated as such.
 
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ord-potential-exposures-due-to-error-12120910

While the technology should have been recognising people as having been in close enough proximity for a transmission, it had instead recorded that they were too far away for the virus to be passed between them.Sky News has independently confirmed the issue, and also learnt that a large proportion of the phantom notifications about exposures - which the Department for Health told users to ignore - were actually real.
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Wow, so everyone including myself who has downloaded the app has actually not been protected which is the most basic function of having the app to begin with?

This is a complete joke if that's the case. So all those alerts I have been getting may have been exposure notices telling me I'm fine instead?

This is bad, this puts part of all this mess with the government.
 
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