Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

 

[mrb85]

No it doesn't you buffoon.

What a lovely evidenced response. I can't believe anyone would get involved in a debate on which he/she shows such a clear absence of investigation into a subject matter.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I understand that the main virus test will pick up fragments of dead virus form old infections. Wasn't it being suggested a month or so ago (by the Oxford University team) that tests should have a cut off point below which the virus reading would not lead to a case being classed as positive? Don't think this was taken up.

What’s your point here exactly?

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[bullybeef]

Teaching union trying to get another extended paid holiday for their members.

Kids need to be at school for so many reasons.

Yes they spread the virus but the answer is to increase testing in schools.

University learning should have been remote. Full stop!

 

[mill]

You been speaking to Whitty? Just to point out that the number of new cases is the number discovered -- given the ever increasing numbers being tested and the more targeted approach to the testing effort, then the number of new positive cases could increase even if total numbers with the virus in the population were falling (not that I'm even suggesting this is the case). In other words, the increases you refer to should not be taken as reflecting the actual rate of spread.

so your argument is that the actual number of cases is falling even though the number of cases testing positive is increasing at an relatively stable rate of growth?

That’s your counter argument?

 

[mill]

Got to write this my mam passed away 13 days ago ,when.she was not well all they wanted to know was did she wanted resuscitation blimey it was terrible. Now my dad is in palliative care on the sefton suite in aintree, same question asked, this is all down to the pandemic because options are now limited because of the virus imo .anyone moaning about lockdown stops now,because its affected people with other illnesses. This is my opinion thanks

I’m really sorry mate. That’s awful.

 

[mill]

They have been thankfully been going down since the start of the epidemic as we have developed better treatments/more experience and healthcare systems haven’t been as overwhelmed but haven’t seen estimates as low as that myself but haven’t been keeping track recently so if you could dig up your reference I’d be interested to see it.

Also, it’s based on a period when the NHS has capacity.

Let’s see what happens to the number when doctors are at a point where they have to make a choice as to who gets treatment and who doesn’t.

We need to go into lockdown because this will kill a lot of people if we don’t. We wouldn’t need lockdown if we had a fully functioning track and trace system. We missed that boat, we delayed going into lockdown and so now this is going to be really painful.

At the same time we need to support those who need it. That means everyone. Employed, furloughed, self employed, unemployed. We need to fill the hole in economic activity for the period we have been locked down. We can deal with the inflation further down the line.

 

[zzr45]

‘THE’ science ignoring numbers again.

Grassroots sport devastated by implications of England's new lockdown

Grassroots sport has been dealt a severe blow after the government announced gyms, swimming pools and clubs in England will close from Thursday because of the second national lockdown

www.theguardian.com

‘Grey-Thompson also cited the low level of prevalence of covid in gyms and leisure centres in England since they were allowed to reopen on 25 July as being a third reason to allow gyms to stay open. “The latest aggregated data, from over 1,900 facilities, reveals that more than five million visits were made to this sample of gyms in the UK during the week from 5-11 October, and in that time just 156 customers reported attending a facility before being confirmed positive with Covid-19.’

 

[Number_25]

Weird reading all of this.

Been working with COVID data since July, my only issue is the prevalence of false negatives.

The way that PCR is being done right now guarantees that if the virus is present in the result, it's pretty much 99.999% correct.

My issue is that a lot of places are having to use FastDNA spin kits for Soil with use of ethanol being limited (the usual standard is 100ml of 100% for a Salt/Ethanol wash solution as to remove impurities when the DNA are bound to the binding matrix) when processing Samples. This isn't going to lead to false positives, as I've seen people claim here.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Teaching union trying to get another extended paid holiday for their members.

Kids need to be at school for so many reasons.

Yes they spread the virus but the answer is to increase testing in schools.

University learning should have been remote. Full stop!

It's why Drakeford had the Welsh fire break in Wales over half term, there has been no school since 16th October. No getting away from the fact that schools are a major source transmission of any virus. With the best will in the world you won't get kids to social distance.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Schools will close early for Christmas I reckon..

Boris saves Christmas.

Mmmm, this is Matt Chorley from the Times etc.

 

[whiteshadow]

They have been thankfully been going down since the start of the epidemic as we have developed better treatments/more experience and healthcare systems haven’t been as overwhelmed but haven’t seen estimates as low as that myself but haven’t been keeping track recently so if you could dig up your reference I’d be interested to see it.

IFR study

0.36% estimate.

 

[tsubaki]

Mmmm, this is Matt Chorley from the Times etc.

they’ll still troop loyally through whatever lobby he tells them to

Though spare a thought fro Rob Roberts, MP for Delyn - whose spent the last two weeks regularly slating Drakeford and the Welsh government on Facebook for imposing a lockdown. For some reason though he’s been oddly quiet since Friday night?