Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[degsy]

No chance they'd do that. This whole lockdown has been planned so that cases come down before christmas, allowing families to get together and shops to trade. Then, after new year we'll be in full lockdown again when the figures spike.

This all day

 

[Cool_Blue]

We will be in this lockdown until around April.

Why April? We’ll be in and out of lockdowns (of various intensities) until a vaccine arrives. Atm, no one knows when that will be, but let’s hope it’s early in the New Year. People can blame the government if it makes them feel better, but the reality is that no government in Europe has a magic bullet. Lockdowns appearing all over the shop.

 

[Neiler]

UK modeling must be really frightening::

 

[Jebus_lives]

UK modeling must be really frightening::

Someone's just explained exponential growth to him I imagine.

 

[degsy]

If it does drag on and Christmas looks to be a none starter, people will just say sod it...then it will get sticky

 

[Neiler]

Evidence emerging of the long term impact of Covid on those under 50 and "Long Coivd" phenomenon.

WHO raises alarm over widespread and enduring damage of Long Covid

One expert says coronavirus is causing levels of disability last seen during world wars

www.irishtimes.com

 

[sbbefc]

Why April? We’ll be in and out of lockdowns (of various intensities) until a vaccine arrives. Atm, no one knows when that will be, but let’s hope it’s early in the New Year. People can blame the government if it makes them feel better, but the reality is that no government in Europe has a magic bullet. Lockdowns appearing all over the shop.

I have sympathy with any government that has to deal with this situation. But this government hasn't helped itself in the slightest. The delay, the mixed messages, Cummings flouting the rules to name a few examples. Even yesterday, where we had to wait almost 3 hours for the news conference reeks of incompetence.

 

[davek]

They will definitely lift lock down before Xmas mate UK, i think 6 weeks just might do it or very close to it. First or second week in Dec will be the clever play by the UK government.

They wont want to miss the high street boom this Christmas and no politician is going to cancel Xmas.

The UK is a week and a half behind us, we went in to lock down on the 21st of Oct. Our cases peaked at 1200 odd per day at that point, yesterday we had 416 new cases and we are due to lift restrictions on the 1 of Dec.

Ireland are in a different (better) position to the UK. I wouldn't use that comparison as a guide.

Christmas as a business proposition is all about consumer confidence. How can anyone feel confident about doing the High Street ritual (which also means restaurant, bar, cafe visits) in the teeth of a murderous pandemic?

Look at the trend in any case. From last year:



Expect the vast majority switching to online this year.

 

[Neiler]

Seems much of the second wave being experienced in Europe is a different vairent then the strain in Spring was seeded likely during the summer originating in Spain.

https://www.ft.com/content/2782655a-0441-4d38-bb03-5c4e67ead110?sharetype=blocked

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Seems much of the second wave being experienced in Europe is a different vairent then the strain in Spring was seeded likely during the summer originating in Spain.

https://www.ft.com/content/2782655a-0441-4d38-bb03-5c4e67ead110?sharetype=blocked

Which is why it doesn't matter whatever we do - so long as borders remain open and your middle class turnips can jet set here there and everywhere bringing God knows what back with them means we are snookered unless an all round vaccine is ready.

 

[Nymzee]

You'd think it'd be cheaper to ensure health systems had more capacity than it would be to keep shutting countries down.

It takes quite a while to train doctors and nurses etc.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Seems much of the second wave being experienced in Europe is a different vairent then the strain in Spring was seeded likely during the summer originating in Spain.

https://www.ft.com/content/2782655a-0441-4d38-bb03-5c4e67ead110?sharetype=blocked

*Awaits*

The Spanish again...

Remember the Spanish gave us the Spanish Flu last time and look how bad that was!!!

 

[trueblue84]

Pipe dream this. Christmas full of hospitals overflowing and people being encouraged to get out and spend in shops and gather around family and friends.

Not happening.

We've already had the dog whistles from Johnson about 'different type of Christmas'.

It was always going to be a different Christmas anyway. I don't think it will be a complete lifting of restrictions, but there's no way they'll risk alienating the public over the biggest holiday period (unless the numbers continue to rise, even in full lockdown).

The economy would be well and truly goosed if retail was shut down in the run up to Christmas.

As currently planned, lockdown would be lifted around 11th December. That gives 2 weekends with the possibility to delay by a week and still give retail a fighting chance.

Only time will tell...

 

[Jebus_lives]

Which is why it doesn't matter whatever we do - so long as borders remain open and your middle class turnips can jet set here there and everywhere bringing God knows what back with them means we are snookered unless an all round vaccine is ready.

I'm sure the middle class areas doing actually quite well as far as Covid rates are concerned, might have a different view.

 

[trueblue84]

Ireland are in a different (better) position to the UK. I wouldn't use that comparison as a guide.

Christmas as a business proposition is all about consumer confidence. How can anyone feel confident about doing the High Street ritual (which also means restaurant, bar, cafe visits) in the teeth of a murderous pandemic?

Look at the trend in any case. From last year:

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Expect the vast majority switching to online this year.

I think you're giving too much credit to the average person. I guarantee that if lockdown is lifted the week before christmas, the shops (and bars if allowed to reopen) will be packed.