Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Behavioral factors would be my guess but would be great if there were medical reasons.
U.S. health officials are urging Americans to get their flu shots this year in the hopes of thwarting a winter “twindemic”—a situation in which both influenza and COVID-19 spread and sicken the public. But a new study suggests that there could be another key reason to get a flu jab this year: it might reduce your risk of COVID-19. The research, released as a preprint that has not yet been peer-reviewed, indicates that a flu vaccine against the influenza virus may also trigger the body to produce broad infection-fighting molecules that combat the pandemic-causing coronavirus. The paper is in line with some other recent studies published in peer-reviewed journals that point to similar effects. But researchers caution the research is preliminary and needs to be bolstered by more rigorous experiments.

In the new study, Mihai Netea, an infectious disease immunologist at Radboud University Medical Center in the Netherlands, and his colleagues combed through their hospital’s databases to see if employees who got a flu shot during the 2019–2020 season were more or less likely to get infected by SARS-CoV-2, the virus behind COVID-19. Workers who received a flu vaccine, the researchers found, were 39 percent less likely to test positive for the coronavirus as of June 1, 2020. While 2.23 percent of nonvaccinated employees tested positive, only 1.33 percent of vaccinated ones did. Netea and his team posted their findings on the preprint server MedRxiv on October 16.

These findings do not prove that flu vaccines prevent COVID-19, however. “This is an intriguing study, but it doesn’t provide definitive evidence,” says Ellen Foxman, an immunobiologist and clinical pathologist at the Yale School of Medicine. There could be other explanations for the association the Radboud scientists and their colleagues found. For instance, people who choose to receive a flu shot may be more health-conscious and more likely to follow COVID-19 prevention guidelines than individuals who do not get vaccinated. Netea agrees, noting that overall behavior, rather than the shot, might have made people in the former group less likely to get sick in his study.
 
The report wasn't just talking of pubs, it was talking of restaurants too. And there are gastro pubs that can open.
Aye but there is a difference between a nice pub lunch still and sitting in a big room drinking cola with other men .

No alcohol means noone will go the pub
 
Interesting to read that in Czech, healthcare staff are still going to work even if they return a positive test result. Their logic is that so long as the person is not exhibiting symptoms, then it's fine for them to work in isolation with patients who are also positive. I've not heard of such an approach being used anywhere else, and have no idea if it's medically sound or more driven by the fact that 13,000 medical staff are currently positive and there is a shortage.

Had to chuckle as Radio4 spoke with a senior Belgian epidemiologist bloke, and they asked him whether this kind of thing was a good idea, and he kinda said it was both desperate and playing with fire. *sigh Get something right you meffs, we could do without any family members dying xx
 
Haha!

I am still trying to work out why in Wales, you can go in a supermarket and buy ale, wine, and ciggies, but socks are illegal.

Christ, you can even but an essential pumpkin for halloween I guess!
Idea for a social experiment, head out to Tesco in the nip and when confronted claim that clothes are apparently non essential items, there'd at least be an interesting court case.
 
Idea for a social experiment, head out to Tesco in the nip and when confronted claim that clothes are apparently non essential items, there'd at least be an interesting court case.

It's kept tourist caravanning and holiday home people away which has been a problem right up to last week... Effectively Wales is closed, so in that aspect it's Wales 1 - Covid mouth breathers 0. I have roads to myself which is personal bonus.
 
I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

They sometimes differentiate between covid and "covid related" when giving statistics on the news. "Covid related" was where it was confirmed or suspected that the person had the virus. That's how I interpreted it anyway.

Indeed. A demonstration of the fatal flaw in free at the point of delivery, NHS service, exasperating, well for someone else, innit.
 
I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

They sometimes differentiate between covid and "covid related" when giving statistics on the news. "Covid related" was where it was confirmed or suspected that the person had the virus. That's how I interpreted it anyway.
Eitherway, we don't and will never know how many people have died exclusively because of covid!!
 
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