Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Mr. White]

Who really wants to go out?

Faecal matter discovered on Costa Coffee tables amid pandemic 'clean up'

Ermm...

metro.co.uk

Store cleaners can only do so much...

It's the dirty b***ards that don't wash their hands that leave their 'faecal matter' everywhere...



Traces of faeces have been found on every single McDonald’s touchscreen swabbed in an investigation by metro.co.uk.

Poo found on every McDonald's touchscreen tested

Samples were taken from the new machines that have been rolled out at restaurants across the country.

metro.co.uk

 

[BlueToff]

Of course, there are always issues, but no where near as many issues and disasters as those stemming from Westminster.

Oh I agree.

Just seems they've gone a bit too far - straying into the ludicrous territory - and that's not really gonna help people accept further restrictions.

 

[BlueToff]

Mate, c'mon, stop putting us young adults to shame with nonsense like this. Sounding like a stupid child here.

There is of course a virus. I don't dispute that.

Are the restrictions such as banning frying pans needed, though?

No, they aren't. No government should have a right to say what is not and what is essential when it boils down to what's in a shop. It's 2020, fgs.

I can accept not doing anything - you know, pub or whatever. Working loads anyway atm so it doesn't impact me. We can all deal with it.

But some of the restrictions we're seeing across Europe now are just dead weird. A 6pm curfew/shutdown in Italy, I believe (or certain regions).

This has been going on, on and off, for seven months. It's not right not to have another solution, yet I'm sure a vaccine will magically be here by spring.

Look at what's benefitting. Look at comments in recent BJ speeches about 'digital identity', and the 'green economy' which is being pushed by plenty of world leaders.

It's a good thing in a lot of ways, but this virus is definitely being used as a way of bringing certain things into place that beforehand would not have been there.

Transforming industry - a massive push to cyber etc - being an example of this.

You can say all that and then acknowledge there is a virus here and to a lot of people it can be serious.

150 deaths recorded in the UK today. Think the highest it's been since May is around the 250 mark (just a quick look at the google graph).

Once we get through the next few months there is absolutely no reason for stuff to keep on being shut down / under curfew.

 

[BlueToff]

That's a selfish cost-benefit analysis.

Look what's been happening and what's being asked for.

What's been happening since early in the summer has been an almost full opening up of the economy and social life - it's been no iron cage of the individual, but to read your thoughts it's like you;ve been asked to endure the life of a Soviet dissident.

What's being called for is a circuit break of a few weeks to flatten out the surge of cases and hospitalisation, which - despite your protestations - will effect badly hundreds of thousands of fit men and women and will kill tens of thousands of those aged and vulnerable.

Demanding we carry on as in the summer and without a vaccine...which is nearly upon us, btw...is inhuman.

Do not call me selfish.

I've lost near enough everything this year. I've had to live off £400 a month for most of it. I've probably lost more than you, Dave. I was in tears in March and stressed out wondering where my next penny was coming from. I was told it was all needed - well seven months later we're in the same place.

Btw, I haven't actually demanded we carry on as normal. I've said loads of times I know that we need to get through the winter.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

There is of course a virus. I don't dispute that.

Are the restrictions such as banning frying pans needed, though?

No, they aren't. No government should have a right to say what is not and what is essential. It's 2020, fgs.

I can accept not doing anything - you know, pub or whatever. Working loads anyway atm so it doesn't impact me. We can all deal with it.

But some of the restrictions we're seeing across Europe now are just dead weird. A 6pm curfew/shutdown in Italy, I believe (or certain regions).

This has been going on, on and off, for seven months. It's not right not to have another solution, yet I'm sure a vaccine will magically be here by spring.

Look at what's benefitting. Look at comments in recent BJ speeches about 'digital identity', and the 'green economy' which is being pushed by plenty of world leaders.

It's a good thing in a lot of ways, but this virus is definitely being used as a way of bringing certain things into place that beforehand would not have been there.

Transforming industry - a massive push to cyber etc - being an example of this.

You can say all that and then acknowledge there is a virus here and to a lot of people it can be serious.

150 deaths recorded in the UK today. Think the highest it's been since May is around the 250 mark (just a quick look at the google graph).

Once we get through the next few months there is absolutely no reason for stuff to keep on being shut down / under curfew.

Governments aint helping themselves- as usual something starts off with good intentions then gets taken too far and loses support of the masses.

See BLM, Lockdown restrictions etc etc

 

[BlueToff]

Governments aint helping themselves- as usual something starts off with good intentions then gets taken too far and loses support of the masses.

See BLM, Lockdown restrictions etc etc

I don't think people have an issue following rules which are clearly going to help.

They also will go into lockdown if needed.

But when something so ludicrous as a governing body saying what individual items within a shop can be classed as 'essential' happens, then it's all gone Pete Tong.

 

[Nymzee]

There is of course a virus. I don't dispute that.

Are the restrictions such as banning frying pans needed, though?

No, they aren't. No government should have a right to say what is not and what is essential when it boils down to what's in a shop. It's 2020, fgs.

I can accept not doing anything - you know, pub or whatever. Working loads anyway atm so it doesn't impact me. We can all deal with it.

But some of the restrictions we're seeing across Europe now are just dead weird. A 6pm curfew/shutdown in Italy, I believe (or certain regions).

This has been going on, on and off, for seven months. It's not right not to have another solution, yet I'm sure a vaccine will magically be here by spring.

Look at what's benefitting. Look at comments in recent BJ speeches about 'digital identity', and the 'green economy' which is being pushed by plenty of world leaders.

It's a good thing in a lot of ways, but this virus is definitely being used as a way of bringing certain things into place that beforehand would not have been there.

Transforming industry - a massive push to cyber etc - being an example of this.

You can say all that and then acknowledge there is a virus here and to a lot of people it can be serious.

150 deaths recorded in the UK today. Think the highest it's been since May is around the 250 mark (just a quick look at the google graph).

Once we get through the next few months there is absolutely no reason for stuff to keep on being shut down / under curfew.

Why are you complaining about restrictions in Italy? Why are you complaining about the non-essential shopping in Wales?

You're getting all worked up over nothing. Just keep working, keep making sensible decisions, easy peasy.

 

[BlueToff]

Why are you complaining about restrictions in Italy? Why are you complaining about the non-essential shopping in Wales?

You're getting all worked up over nothing. Just keep working, keep making sensible decisions, easy peasy.

Well, I live on this planet, I don't like the idea of people being locked in their own homes by useless governments which have had seven months to deal with a problem that they've got no solution to, mate. It's rather annoying.

I'm keeping on working and other than that stay at home other than when I'm out exercising/on a walk or at the shop.

It's a thrilling existence it really is.

Edit: I will of course do this while it's helping to save lives. But we simply don't know until we fully come out of lockdown (whatever form) what will happen. Some country at some stage in the new year has to take those first steps.

 

[Nymzee]

Well, I live on this planet, I don't like the idea of people being locked in their own homes by useless governments which have had seven months to deal with a problem that they've got no solution to, mate. It's rather annoying.

I'm keeping on working and other than that stay at home other than when I'm out exercising/on a walk or at the shop.

It's a thrilling existence it really is.

But it's still existence - don't take your life for granted when others haven't been so lucky.

If we're lucky we'll live into our 90's and I'm quite okay losing one year of that to a pandemic if needs must

We have restrictions in place now but aside from hugging my Nana there's really nothing the gov are currently stopping me from doing I want/need to do.

Soon as you call it "just a bad flu" you get to sit in my little GOT folder titled "Arseholes".

 

[BlueToff]

But it's still existence - don't take your life for granted when others haven't been so lucky.

If we're lucky we'll live into our 90's and I'm quite okay losing one year of that to a pandemic if needs must

We have restrictions in place now but aside from hugging my Nana there's really nothing the gov are currently stopping me from doing I want/need to do.

Soon as you call it "just a bad flu" you get to sit in my little GOT folder titled "Arseholes".

'It's still existence'

Sound.

Good for you that you can do what you want/need. I'm happy for. you.

And yes, apologise for the 'bad flu' comment.

But you've gone from telling people to simply 'get other jobs' to now just be happy to 'exist'.

So tbh mate, I'd look at your own comments too.

 

[BlueToff]

I'm not exactly an anti-vaxxer or attending protests etc (BLM was alright, like?).

Just fed up of these daft rules which are doing nothing but making this measly 'existence' miserable.

If they get results, fine. But we said the same thing six/seven months back.

 

[Nymzee]

'It's still existence'

Sound.

Good for you that you can do what you want/need. I'm happy for. you.

And yes, apologise for the 'bad flu' comment.

But you've gone from telling people to simply 'get other jobs' to now just be happy to 'exist'.

So tbh mate, I'd look at your own comments too.

Sorry, what exactly can you currently not do that you simply MUST do right this instance in the middle of a pandemic & you're so outraged the goverment are blocking it and controlling you with fear?

Answers on a postcard.

 

[BlueToff]

Sorry, what exactly can you currently not do that you simply MUST do right this instance in the middle of a pandemic & you're so outraged the goverment are blocking it and controlling you with fear?

Answers on a postcard.

You miss my point.

I can live with it. It's boring and crap but we can all manage for another few months I'm sure.

What's gonna be left after all this is my concern. You can forget going to gigs (my hobby/interest) or matches any time soon, unless there's some miracle vaccine. You can forget people having the impetus to open up a new cafe, or bar or restaraunt if there's a chance of further lockdowns.

I don't see how, given the current corner they've backed themselves into, we get out of this in a matter of months after New Year without just taking a total step away from any restrictions.

 

[Nymzee]

You miss my point.

I can live with it. It's boring and crap but we can all manage for another few months I'm sure.

What's gonna be left after all this is my concern. You can forget going to gigs (my hobby/interest) or matches any time soon, unless there's some miracle vaccine. You can forget people having the impetus to open up a new cafe, or bar or restaraunt if there's a chance of further lockdowns.

I don't see how, given the current corner they've backed themselves into, we get out of this in a matter of months after New Year without just taking a total step away from any restrictions.

Right, okay so you've admitted there than none of the govs current rules are that bad then if you're not being hindered in any way except a couple of hobbies that aren't critical you whatsoever.

So what do you propose the gov should do that allows these things now? (bold)

If you have no answer then you can't complain.

 

[Moomin]

I'm not exactly an anti-vaxxer or attending protests etc (BLM was alright, like?).

Just fed up of these daft rules which are doing nothing but making this measly 'existence' miserable.

If they get results, fine. But we said the same thing six/seven months back.

Grow a backbone and stop being a flump.