Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[bebo86]

My misses is a nurse. They were told today expect to be vaccinated Q1 next year. Will be shocked if vaccine is not approved by Christmas. Hoping by Christmas next year this thing will be over. I want life back

 

[orchard]

Seems like a strange hill molehill for people to take a stand on, that's all.

Maybe there's lots of similar indignation in Ireland that we don't see because there's the Irish Sea between us and so it's not newsworthy in England, but maybe there's not ?

Far as I can see, no-ones up in arms because Waterstones and Lakeland can't open in Wales, but people are getting very stressed about the equivalent aisles in Tesco being shut ? But if you saying it's for two years rather than two weeks ( well, probably four or five if we're being honest about it ) helps pass the time, then go for it mate.

One can see the Tory press trying to find issues in Scotland over the last few months to try to undermine the support for the devolved stance, wouldn't surprise me if more 'issues' here in Wales are to be overblown in the future too, as you can see on these pages, folk are eager to jump to conclusions prematurely.

 

[Catfish Blues]

One can see the Tory press trying to find issues in Scotland over the last few months to try to undermine the support for the devolved stance, wouldn't surprise me if more 'issues' here in Wales are to be overblown in the future too, as you can see on these pages, folk are eager to jump to conclusions prematurely.

Probably some truth in that, but I think mainly folk are just bored.

I am a bit concerned about the fact that I've at least partially agreed with @davek twice in a few days. Troubling times we're living in when that happens.

 

[peteblue]

Think that lad on the left might be a long lost grandad or something

Well he is wearing cycling shorts.....

 

[davek]

That's not my point. It's the fact it's going down to such a minuscule scale.

It's not a government's job to decide what is 'essential' or not to people.

Yes it is. It's a crisis of epic proportions.

I can imagine people like you in the Second World War: "Rations? I'm not having any rations. Why should I have the same as everyone else?"

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes it is. It's a crisis of epic proportions.

I can imagine people like you in the Second World War: "Rations? I'm not having any rations. Why should I have the same as everyone else?"

No complaints about hunger on Twitter back then either. Rationing is clearly the answer.

 

[davek]

No complaints about hunger on Twitter back then either. Rationing is clearly the answer.

Rationing access to twitter might be a good thing.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

My misses is a nurse. They were told today expect to be vaccinated Q1 next year. Will be shocked if vaccine is not approved by Christmas. Hoping by Christmas next year this thing will be over. I want life back

Hope so mate - already lost someone I know to the virus dont want any others being affected.

Cant wait for my lad to be able to give his great grandmother a proper hug

 

[davek]

My misses is a nurse. They were told today expect to be vaccinated Q1 next year. Will be shocked if vaccine is not approved by Christmas. Hoping by Christmas next year this thing will be over. I want life back

It's an absolute certainty to be available before the spring. Probably by early new year.

There's going to be a glut of licensed vaccines out there competing for sales to national governments.

 

[BlueToff]

Yes it is. It's a crisis of epic proportions.

I can imagine people like you in the Second World War: "Rations? I'm not having any rations. Why should I have the same as everyone else?"

It's a crisis that is being used as a mechanism for control.

There is no science behind any of this. And fear is being used to control people.

The cases are higher because it's winter. I've felt crap all weekend - not had a jot to drink or anything. I'm just run down at this time of year and will be getting a cold on.

I wouldn't bet against me having the thing if I went for a test.

It isn't going anywhere but it does little damage to the vast majority of people. We've shut down the world for a bad flu.

Another few months - fair enough, let's get through winter. Let's get a vaccine to those who need it. After that governments everywhere must relinquish these daft measures and get on with it. People are being treated far better now than they were in March and April. We have learned a lot about how to treat this thing.

The people who get it and end up severely hospitalised now will be those who fall into that very vulnerable category. I'm not sure how the Welsh assembly stopping people buying a frying pan for two weeks saves their life.

 

[davek]

It's a crisis that is being used as a mechanism for control.

There is no science behind any of this. And fear is being used to control people.

It isn't going anywhere but it does little damage to the vast majority of people. We've shut down the world for a bad flu.

Another few months - fair enough, let's get through winter. After that governments everywhere must relinquish these daft measures and get on with it. People are being treated far better now than they were in March and April. We have learnt a lot about how to treat this thing.

The people who get it and end up severely hospitalised now will be those who fall into that very vulnerable category. I'm not sure how the Welsh assembly stopping people buying a frying pan for two weeks saves their life.

Jesus wept.

 

[BlueToff]

One can see the Tory press trying to find issues in Scotland over the last few months to try to undermine the support for the devolved stance, wouldn't surprise me if more 'issues' here in Wales are to be overblown in the future too, as you can see on these pages, folk are eager to jump to conclusions prematurely.

There are issues with Scotland's approach though. You don't have to be part of the Tory press to see that. Sturgeon has lapped this up, the little control freak.

She's killed industry up there just like the tossers in Westminster have.

 

[BlueToff]

Jesus wept.

Look, I know it's serious. I know of two people dying, one a relative. The first one, in May, should not have died.They were not vulnerable. They got it in hospital and due to our thin resources at the time, could not be saved.

The second person who died that I knew of - my mate's grandfather - was a chronic COPD patient. As my friend put it, they wouldn't have seen Christmas. It's crap, it doesn't make it any better, but they were the only COVID death in the entire hospital (one of the largest in Yorkshire) that week. An 80-year-old ex-miner who'd had pneumonia earlier this year.

Does stopping someone buying a frying pan (for two weeks) save his life?

My mate tested positive two weeks back. He's had a headache. That's it. He went for a test on the off chance. No other symptom over 2 weeks of isolation other than one day of fever.

How the hell can we track this thing really in that case?

I've felt crap all weekend. I'm tired from work, run down and the weather is changing. It happens. If I went and got a test I'd probably test positive - I've got the same symptoms as my mate had, but it's exactly what I'd have if I just had a cold (which is obviously likely). I haven't had any contact with him in 3-4 weeks.

What am I going to do though, completely stop my life? Stop going to work and earning money I desperately need? I can't afford to. I'll just have to get on with it and follow precautions.

 

[BlueToff]

I'm not looking to belittle anyone's death or the seriousness of it.

But after seven months of learning how to tackle this thing, lockdowns as the only answer is ludicrous.

 

[orchard]

There are issues with Scotland's approach though. You don't have to be part of the Tory press to see that. Sturgeon has lapped this up, the little control freak.

She's killed industry up there just like the tossers in Westminster have.

Of course, there are always issues, but no where near as many issues and disasters as those stemming from Westminster.