Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Jebus_lives]

My ‘what if‘ moments involve the question of how non retired or unemployed folk have the time to post so much in here. I will give it more thought when I visit the pub shortly....

No comment on the other information Pete Any thoughts?

You've been very vocal.about how wrong he was, but offered nothing in the face of contrary evidence.

Or are you just dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't support your need for a scapegoat other than Boris.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Lockdown or not, personality predicts your likelihood of staying home during the pandemic

Despite more of the population staying at home as government policies on COVID-19 become stricter, a study has found that a person’s personality influences how

www.cam.ac.uk

 

[Jebus_lives]

No comment on the other information Pete Any thoughts?

You've been very vocal.about how wrong he was, but offered nothing in the face of contrary evidence.

Or are you just dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't support your need for a scapegoat other than Boris.

Oh and...............

In my defence, I'm on leave.

Before your critical mind gets clouded further.

 

[Tubey]

Burnham nails it - when London exploded with this virus, national lockdown, "all in this together".

The north gets it this time, and regional lockdowns, immediate Tier 3 for familiar whipping boy city Liverpool etc.

It's Tory contempt for the north, clear as day.

 

[davek]

https://t.co/IGzfflBcQS?amp=1

PHE surveillance report regarding where infections are occuring. Mainly educational settings.

View attachment 104484View attachment 104485

Interesting from a report in March that states 'We predict that school and university closure will have an impact on the epidemic, under the
assumption that children do transmit as much as adults, even if they rarely experience severe
disease. We find that school and university closure is a more effective strategy to support epidemic suppression than mitigation' adding home isolation, quarantine and school closures would need to be the minimum requirement.

Sweden switched to remote learning very early in the pandemic course, which shows the timeliness of intervention in reducing spread.

The March report also states 'For suppression, early action is important, and interventions need to be in place well before healthcare capacity is overwhelmed' with school closure being the recommended action (albeit highlighting how damaging that could be on society).

All that can be shut down should be shut down, no matter what the contribution to the virus' spread.

If you can shut down food outlets which cause transmission then why wouldn't you?

That Excel spreadsheet you linked is showing some interesting figures on rate of infection per 100,000 amongst different age groups (there's a massive cleavage between the under 30s and over 30s) and between genders - the latest figures seem to indicate women more than men are picking up the virus (there's clearer distance between the two in the last fortnight or so).

 

[peteblue]

No comment on the other information Pete Any thoughts?

You've been very vocal.about how wrong he was, but offered nothing in the face of contrary evidence.

Or are you just dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't support your need for a scapegoat other than Boris.

Sorry, I thought you’d gone off to look up swine flu....back later

 

[Jebus_lives]

All that can be shut down should be shut down, no matter what the contribution to the virus' spread.

If you can shut down food outlets which cause transmission then why wouldn't you?

That Excel spreadsheet you linked is showing some interesting figures on rate of infection per 100,000 amongst different age groups (there's a massive cleavage between the under 30s and over 30s) and between genders - the latest figures seem to indicate women more than men are picking up the virus (there's clearer distance between the two in the last fortnight or so).

 

[davek]

They're not even helping business interests in their capitulation with Boris, they basically just agreed to bring financial ruin on certain sectors with zero benefit in fighting the virus

It does look though that we're headed to a national circuit breaker whether Boris wants one or not, Wales is pushing for one along with the all the local councils, it just depends how many Boris wants to die before backing down and accepting that the logical choice is a national lockdown, otherwise you end up with people thinking they can jump from one lockdown region to one with better "restrictions" as is the case with the Scots being warned not to cross the border so they can watch the Old Firm at an open pub

That ability for border populations to jump from one type of restriction to another - all over the UK between authorities and not just between devolved nations - will make a national lockdown inevitable.

Johnson has gone for a dog's breakfast approach when we needed clarity and an orderly retreat from an open economy.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sorry, I thought you’d gone off to look up swine flu....back later

Bye Pete. As usual you leave when you're exposed.

You've made a valuable contribution to the thread today

 

[COYBL25]

It's hard to have much sympathy over the utter state they're in tbh. They've sadly become an utter shambles.

Maybe we can send them Dave and Joey to teach them a lesson ?

They`d be begging for mercy after a few days.

 

[roydo]

That ability for border populations to jump from one type of restriction to another - all over the UK between authorities and not just between devolved nations - will make a national lockdown inevitable.

Johnson has gone for a dog's breakfast approach when we needed clarity and an orderly retreat from an open economy.

You honestly think folk will look at a map, see they can have a pint in Bristol, and drive 300 miles to have one?

In the summer, with Christmas and that, then probably. But this time of year, with the nights drawing in, I would guess most would check the weather first.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Gym owner fined as police storm premises and order it to close

The devastated gym owner was ordered to 'close immediately' as police officers stood guard inside

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Irresponsible clown crying because he's got a fine for breaking the law

He is making a stand purposely because if he closes he goes under anyway, he states he has support from local MPs etc.

And they have a go fund page if anyone you would like to contribute to paying the fines!

SAVE LIVERPOOL GYMS, organized by Sean Stanhope

WE ARE STAYING OPEN TO OUR MEMBERS - SAVE THE GYMS NORTH WEST We are setting up this fundraiser bec… Sean Stanhope needs your support for SAVE LIVERPOOL GYMS

uk.gofundme.com

 

[davek]

You honestly think folk will look at a map, see they can have a pint in Bristol, and drive 300 miles to have one?

In the summer, with Christmas and that, then probably. But this time of year, with the nights drawing in, I would guess most would check the weather first.

No, that's why I said people near the borders of different authorities.

 

[COYBL25]

He is making a stand purposely because if he closes he goes under anyway, he states he has support from local MPs etc.

And they have a go fund page if anyone you would like to contribute to paying the fines!

SAVE LIVERPOOL GYMS, organized by Sean Stanhope

WE ARE STAYING OPEN TO OUR MEMBERS - SAVE THE GYMS NORTH WEST We are setting up this fundraiser bec… Sean Stanhope needs your support for SAVE LIVERPOOL GYMS

uk.gofundme.com

He`s getting a lot of support too by the looks of it.

40k within 48 hrs of starting the fund raiser shows the levels of disquiet over what`s going on.

Three people have donated a grand each

 

[roydo]

No, that's why I said people near the borders of different authorities.

Didnt get the nuance of that. Yeah, they most likely would. Did for years in Wales when the North had dry Sundays in the pubs. Or where ever they were.