Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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I’ll give you a quick summary of what you’ve been missing.
Every post ends with the word - “ DOWN “
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Look if you think the sun shines out of Ferguson’s behind then fine. The more critical person may disagree. Personally I think he’s a disgrace and wouldn’t employ him to walk the dog.......
Blue83
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Watching Sky the Manchester leaders won't submit to a tier 3 for no gain which is fair
While Joe cry arsing that Boris not doing enough when he's the one who agreed to a pointless tier 3
I also thought Boris gave him powers to increase these restrictions that are only restrictions in name
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While Joe cry arsing that Boris not doing enough when he's the one who agreed to a pointless tier 3
I also thought Boris gave him powers to increase these restrictions that are only restrictions in name
Coronavirus: Liverpool mayor considers extra half-term week
Almost 500 teaching staff and 8,000 pupils are currently self-isolating in Liverpool.
www.bbc.co.uk
PHE surveillance report regarding where infections are occuring. Mainly educational settings.
Interesting from a report in March that states 'We predict that school and university closure will have an impact on the epidemic, under the
assumption that children do transmit as much as adults, even if they rarely experience severe
disease. We find that school and university closure is a more effective strategy to support epidemic suppression than mitigation' adding home isolation, quarantine and school closures would need to be the minimum requirement.
Sweden switched to remote learning very early in the pandemic course, which shows the timeliness of intervention in reducing spread.
The March report also states 'For suppression, early action is important, and interventions need to be in place well before healthcare capacity is overwhelmed' with school closure being the recommended action (albeit highlighting how damaging that could be on society).
The 'more critical person' would read his research rather than rely on what to be told by the Spectator and the Telegraph.
Given your scathing assessment, I'm sure you've had chance and are familiar with the examples you've cited. So I'd be interested in your interpretation of what each says and why they are wrong. Please provide the source material.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
For what purpose ? His papers will attempt to prove why he is right. They always do. Perhaps you could show why his 2009 projection of 65,000 deaths by Swine flu was out by a factor of x130. He is a clever man, but I would not bet the lives of my family on the results of his predictions. You would, fine......
His papers will attempt to prove his theory of course, but you've not explained why they are incorrect, you've just called him incompetent and blamed him for scaremongering.
I expected you'd ask, because you almost inevitably demand evidence and analysis from others while only presenting your own opinion and 'experience', so here goes...
He didn't "predict" nine-figure bird flu deaths. At the point that H5N1 (bird flu) arose, he was working on a hypothetical model of 'what if' H5N1 became human-to-human-transmissible
Here you go:
The paper suggests difficulty in knowing what would occur if a virus like H5N1 became H-2-H transmissable. To project that he multiplies Spanish Flu (best pandemic data source available) by six (adjusting for population growth) to indicate 'what if' a virus like H5N1 in 2005 became as deadly and transmissible as Spanish Flu.
You can read about it here:
https://t.co/7HWklaSDrz.
I'm sure your extensive reading has made you aware that H5N1 hasn't become human-to-human-transmissible https://www.who.int/influenza/human_animal_interface/avian_influenza/h5n1_research/faqs/en/#:~:text=Almost all cases of H5N1,person appears to be unusual.
It's the job of modellers to imagine 'what if' scenarios, in different circumstances, including those that haven't happened but are similar to ones that have.
My 'what if' moments are currently reserved for wondering 'what if' more critical thinkers bothered to read source information rather than rely on inflammatory newspaper and magazine articles deliberately misrepresenting scientific information to suit their agenda.
Want me to do anymore - I'll do 'mad sheep' if you like?
Edit: just realised you've asked for swine flu. I'll be back shortly.
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You can kinda see why things are [Poor language removed] in Czech 
davek
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Watching Sky the Manchester leaders won't submit to a tier 3 for no gain which is fair
While Joe cry arsing that Boris not doing enough when he's the one who agreed to a pointless tier 3
I also thought Boris gave him powers to increase these restrictions that are only restrictions in name
Coronavirus: Liverpool mayor considers extra half-term week
Almost 500 teaching staff and 8,000 pupils are currently self-isolating in Liverpool.
Him and Rotheram have got it completely wrong - even to the extent that a clown like Johnson is giving them the runaround and using their names in his own defence in parliament. How can you get it so wrong that that happens?
Their strategy should have been to highlight the hospitalisation rate here and they should have been on the side of the whole of the population not just elevating businesses and the impact on them. They should have hammered away about needing 80% furloughing for people who, if they dont get it, will reluctantly look elsewhere for cash to make up the shortfall and thereby add to the rate of infection and hospitalisation.
It underlines just how much the local state on Merseyside have been captured by business interests that the two most prominent leaders are in thrall to their interests. That's why they've been made to look like a pair of tools. They've become detached from their social base.
You can kinda see why things are [Poor language removed] in Czech
Shut stuff down, you drive it underground and someone will find a way to make money out of it.
Blue83
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They're not even helping business interests in their capitulation with Boris, they basically just agreed to bring financial ruin on certain sectors with zero benefit in fighting the virus
It does look though that we're headed to a national circuit breaker whether Boris wants one or not, Wales is pushing for one along with the all the local councils, it just depends how many Boris wants to die before backing down and accepting that the logical choice is a national lockdown, otherwise you end up with people thinking they can jump from one lockdown region to one with better "restrictions" as is the case with the Scots being warned not to cross the border so they can watch the Old Firm at an open pub
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
His papers will attempt to prove his theory of course, but you've not explained why they are incorrect, you've just called him incompetent and blamed him for scaremongering.
I expected you'd ask, because you almost inevitably demand evidence and analysis from others while only presenting your own opinion and 'experience', so here goes...
He didn't "predict" nine-figure bird flu deaths. At the point that H5N1 (bird flu) arose, he was working on a hypothetical model of 'what if' H5N1 became human-to-human-transmissible
Here you go:
The paper suggests difficulty in knowing what would occur if a virus like H5N1 became H-2-H transmissable. To project that he multiplies Spanish Flu (best pandemic data source available) by six (adjusting for population growth) to indicate 'what if' a virus like H5N1 in 2005 became as deadly and transmissible as Spanish Flu.
You can read about it here:
https://t.co/7HWklaSDrz.
I'm sure your extensive reading has made you aware that H5N1 hasn't become human-to-human-transmissible https://www.who.int/influenza/human_animal_interface/avian_influenza/h5n1_research/faqs/en/#:~:text=Almost all cases of H5N1,person appears to be unusual.
It's the job of modellers to imagine 'what if' scenarios, in different circumstances, including those that haven't happened but are similar to ones that have.
My 'what if' moments are currently reserved for wondering 'what if' more critical thinkers bothered to read source information rather than rely on inflammatory newspaper and magazine articles deliberately misrepresenting scientific information to suit their agenda.
Want me to do anymore - I'll do 'mad sheep' if you like?
Edit: just realised you've asked for swine flu. I'll be back shortly.
My ‘what if‘ moments involve the question of how non retired or unemployed folk have the time to post so much in here. I will give it more thought when I visit the pub shortly....
It's hard to have much sympathy over the utter state they're in tbh. They've sadly become an utter shambles.
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