Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

You were saying?

Because I really don't think it is majorly down to people not following rules.

I think the rules are - generally - being followed. They're just nonsensical and crap.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

For all the 'Dr Lockdown' fans chirping about Ferguson asking for early lockdown before cases rose to high, the IMF have released a report asserting that there is probably financial benefit to lockdowns if they are conducted early in the pandemic course because “letting infections grow uncontrolled can also have dire economic consequences”.

@davek I thought this part was particularly relevant to your points
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For those interested, Chapter 2. https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2020/09/30/world-economic-outlook-october-2020#Chapter 2: The Great Lockdown, Dissecting The Economic Effects

To play devil's advocate though, there is also a risk of replicating what we're seeing in Czech at the moment. They locked down extensively very early on and had a limited 1st wave of the virus, but they're now suffering a terrible 2nd wave, with quite comfortably the worst performance in Europe. At the moment they're getting around 6x as many deaths as the UK is, with infections running nationwide around 400 per 100,000.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Schools in NI to close from Friday for 2 weeks and the position then to be reviewed. Pubs and restaurants to close for 4 weeks with only takeout services available. The full restrictions are:

• Closure of the hospitality sector, apart from deliveries and takeaways,with the existing closing time of 23:00 remaining
• Other fast-food and takeaway premises will also have to close at 23:00
• Off-licences and supermarkets will be told not to sell alcohol after 20:00
• No indoor sport of any kind or organised contact sport involving mixing of households other than at elite level
• Close contact services - apart from those meeting essential health needs such as hairdressers - will have to close, but businesses will be defined under the regulations
• Mobile hairdressers and make-up artists - also classed as close contact services - will be prohibited from providing their services in people's homes
• Gyms can remain open but only for individual training - no classes will be permitted
• Places of worship can remain open but face coverings will be mandatory when entering and exiting the venue

Happy Halloween Folks!

 

[AdamEFC]

Send the students home, most of their course is online anyway, why are they even here?

 

[Moomin]

Send the students home, most of their course is online anyway, why are they even here?

They were told to go.

 

[abelard]

Send the students home, most of their course is online anyway, why are they even here?

Because the Tories and Lib Dems converted the universities into businesses which will go bust in six weeks without the dorm fees, and the Tories needed to sustain their core constituent: the private buy-to-let slumlord.

Also, the universities are hives of infection and if you send the kids home now then the transmission rate will explode nationwide.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Because the Tories and Lib Dems converted the universities into businesses which will go bust in six weeks without the dorm fees, and the Tories needed to sustain their core constituent: the private buy-to-let slumlord.

Also, the universities are hives of infection and if you send the kids home now then the transmission rate will explode nationwide.

We reap what they sow...

 

[bullybeef]

Well what disgraceful scenes in Liverpool last night.

Should have got the water cannons on the cretins.

If your reading this big joe... how about you start getting a grip eh lad.

 

[zzr45]

This comment is so Tory it could be called Rupert and be donned in Tweed.

55 Tufton St likes this post.

Bootlicking executives that get paid ridiculous amounts of money to sit on their arse while the frontline is understaffed and underpaid is even more Tory.

 

[bullybeef]

Barclays Bank predicting 3 vaccines will be approved by the end of the year, another 5 by mid 21.
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Didn’t realise Barclays Bank were the experts in medical science... jeez they sure have branched out!

Maybe they would like to get back to their core business, start making some decent profit and increasing the dividend to shareholders!

 

[Jebus_lives]

To play devil's advocate though, there is also a risk of replicating what we're seeing in Czech at the moment. They locked down extensively very early on and had a limited 1st wave of the virus, but they're now suffering a terrible 2nd wave, with quite comfortably the worst performance in Europe. At the moment they're getting around 6x as many deaths as the UK is, with infections running nationwide around 400 per 100,000.

Correct. And that's the obvious proviso - not every situation is the same. There are differences in the success or failings in every country. The report does discuss the damage of lockdown and the damage of a continual cycle of lockdown has in countries. Interestingly, it suggests that where there is high instance of covid-19, less stringent measures have largely no effect because it's too prelevant in communities.

It seems to me, with some degree of expertise although I'm certainly no expert in the matter, that early intervention of lockdown to halt the virus; coupled with traditional public health measures have worked (hands, face, space, cost benefit analysis, measures appropriate to budget and culture, resource before restriction and a degree of codesign (or understanding of need) with public has been most successful.

 

[Charro]

So easy isn’t it.

It was a bunch of daft kids desperate to get on camera and act the big man. No doubt the cameras were there set at 9PM to get the scenes from convert square.

All it takes is that one video and the usual bile starts from people.

Most of the city was dead last night but you’re not going to hear about that are you?

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Because the Tories and Lib Dems converted the universities into businesses which will go bust in six weeks without the dorm fees, and the Tories needed to sustain their core constituent: the private buy-to-let slumlord.

Also, the universities are hives of infection and if you send the kids home now then the transmission rate will explode nationwide.

So true.

 

[Charro]

You were saying?

One example of a bunch of daft kids in concert square and you think it proves a point?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Closing schools is a ridiculous policy. Cant believe there are people out there support it. The country has lost the plot.

I am thoroughly fed up