Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It wasn't used last time either when there was capacity issues.

Makes you wonder why they built it if they were going to leave hospitals full.

Because they didn’t have the staff to man them. They were massive white elephants

An average U.K. general hospital has 1,000 beds and 10x that number of staff.

How many 4,000 bed hospitals are there in the U.K.?

None.

Hospitals wanting to move patients to the Nightingales were told to send staff with them ffs. They were nothing but a PR exercise that didn’t get used as intended as they didn’t have the bodies to do it.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Utter bollocks! In reality it a lot less.
Any death within 28 days of testing positive is a covid death regardless of any other severe health issues.

That’s just ill informed twaddle, that can be proven to be exactly that by providing you with the excess deaths statistics, which you can’t explain away with BS.

There’s been over 53,000 excess deaths since March

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[Bruce Wayne]

Research finds that inadequate US pandemic response cost more American lives than World War I | University of Oxford

New analysis from researchers at the University of Oxford finds that from March to July this year, Europe had a 28% lower rate of excess deaths than the US - contrary to claims by President Donald Trump that Europe experienced greater excess mortality than the US.

www.ox.ac.uk

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That’s just ill informed twaddle, that can be proven to be exactly that by providing you with the excess deaths statistics, which you can’t explain away with BS.

There’s been over 53,000 excess deaths since March

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This thread has been painful for some time as the number of idiots has risen. I blame YoboTwatFace for giving them someone to aim for.

 

[Prevenger17]

Utter bollocks! In reality it a lot less.
Any death within 28 days of testing positive is a covid death regardless of any other severe health issues.

I'm going by overall excess deaths, which is something like 60,000+ over the average in the UK since February

 

[zzr45]

Because they didn’t have the staff to man them. They were massive white elephants

An average U.K. general hospital has 1,000 beds and 10x that number of staff.

How many 4,000 bed hospitals are there in the U.K.?

None.

Hospitals wanting to move patients to the Nightingales were told to send staff with them ffs. They were nothing but a PR exercise that didn’t get used as intended as they didn’t have the bodies to do it.

That and the usual NHS ’We are at breaking point!’ rung hollow as ever.

 

[Nymzee]

When are we supposed to find out about any new restrictions/lockdowns? This week?

 

[davek]

All the dummies still talking about no more restrictions need to wake up (or preferably belt up):

Covid: UK at 'tipping point', top scientist warns

England's deputy chief medical officer says the country will see more deaths over the coming weeks.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[davek]

When are we supposed to find out about any new restrictions/lockdowns? This week?

Officially tomorrow. I'd expect the news to be leaked today though.

Hopefully by Wednesday Merseyside at least will be in lockdown in terms of the hosiptality sector. That's not enough though. And it'll be gradually returned to full lockdown, IMO, by beginning of next month.

 

[davek]

That and the usual NHS ’We are at breaking point!’ rung hollow as ever.

They weren't at breaking point last spring because the government took the decision to seal up care homes and make the weak and the elderly die there instead.

FFS, have you got short term memory disorder?

 

[Nymzee]

Officially tomorrow. I'd expect the news to be leaked today though.

Hopefully by Wednesday Merseyside at least will be in lockdown in terms of the hosiptality sector. That's not enough though. And it'll be gradually returned to full lockdown, IMO, by beginning of next month.

Cheers Dave. I was driving through my home town last night and it was like the last days of Rome. Think everyone was expecting the world to end today.

 

[PhilM]

Officially tomorrow. I'd expect the news to be leaked today though.

Hopefully by Wednesday Merseyside at least will be in lockdown in terms of the hosiptality sector. That's not enough though. And it'll be gradually returned to full lockdown, IMO, by beginning of next month.

Pubs will be closed but restaurants and cafes, including those who sell alcohol, will more likely face some restrictions. Everything else will be the same.

 

[zzr45]

They weren't at breaking point last spring because the government took the decision to seal up care homes and make the weak and the elderly die there instead.

FFS, have you got short term memory disorder?

Fake News. People from care homes were still being sent to hospital.

There's reports of care homes grabbing COVID discharges because they'd get paid £1500 for taking them in. I notice your ire at people making money didn't extend to the scumbags running that sector.

The initial clearance of wards was carried out on the orders of the NHS Chief exec too - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-nhs-hospital-discharges-deaths-a9544671.html

Badly run organisations getting away with murder.

 

[COYBL25]

Fake News. People from care homes were still being sent to hospital.

There's reports of care homes grabbing COVID discharges because they'd get paid £1500 for taking them in. I notice your ire at people making money didn't extend to the scumbags running that sector.

The initial clearance of wards was carried out on the orders of the NHS Chief exec too - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-nhs-hospital-discharges-deaths-a9544671.html

Badly run organisations getting away with murder.

Why let the facts get in the way of a blind agenda ?

 

[davek]

Cheers Dave. I was driving through my home town last night and it was like the last days of Rome. Think everyone was expecting the world to end today.

That's what hapens when you have an ndecisive government and an undisciplined popualtion.

England are the scally nation of Europe.