Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Can someone please give there thoughts to this...

Back in March etc London seemed to be hit hard. Now it's not so much.

Back in March where I live was averaging 4 or 5 cases a day. Now it's approx 20 or so with restrictions in place.

Could it be that right now the virus is peaking in places it didn't hit back in March etc and rather than a second wave, its simply the first for many places?

Like I don't get how pretty much where I live saw small cases immediately after lockdown with no restrictions previously, yet now, with restrictions we have lots more.

Its a fairly affluent, majority White British area with little deprivation. I'm including this as my understanding is BAME and more deprivation seems to have an impact on the chances of catching the virus.

I think that's what we're seeing. London should be the hardest to get under control. Chances are the virus went through far more of the susceptible population in the city than anywhere else.
 
Can someone please give there thoughts to this...

Back in March etc London seemed to be hit hard. Now it's not so much.

Back in March where I live was averaging 4 or 5 cases a day. Now it's approx 20 or so with restrictions in place.

Could it be that right now the virus is peaking in places it didn't hit back in March etc and rather than a second wave, its simply the first for many places?

Like I don't get how pretty much where I live saw small cases immediately after lockdown with no restrictions previously, yet now, with restrictions we have lots more.

Its a fairly affluent, majority White British area with little deprivation. I'm including this as my understanding is BAME and more deprivation seems to have an impact on the chances of catching the virus.

Maybe (probably) there were more that 4-5 cases per day just the testing wasn’t there to find them.
 
Possibly, don't know the numbers - or if they're even out there - but I'm very confident there were more cases early on we just didn't have the testing available nationwide.
I agree.
The figures they publish are only based on tests.
So More testing = higher figures = no second wave.
 
By acknowledging this fact surely you understand the serious consequences of virus triggered ME? Remember it is still thought that only a tiny percentage has had covid, so opening up society too quickly could cause these numbers to multiply. These people could need caring for and that in itself has a knock on effect to the economy.

Of course I acknowledge it. What I would ask you and the likes of Davek to acknowledge is if the potential for “long Covid” is such a huge issue across all demographics than why does the head of the vaccine task force state that the plan is to vaccinate only those who are at considerable risk? Furthermore I am continually asking others to acknowledge that virus triggered ME is not unique to COVID-19, nor are instances where develop other longer term health issues from contracting other viruses. And yet because it’s Covid-19 potentially causing these issues it’s all of a sudden a huge deal? When in reality a majority of people have never given a moments thought to the idea that catching the flu can lead to myocarditis or something like ME.

If things change over time and long term health issues caused by COVID-19 cause them to change their stance and plan to vaccinate the entire country as the risk is seen as great enough to all demographics then anyone can feel free to vault me and I’ll hold my hands up. But right now I will not accept that damaging a lot of other aspects of society and our lives with this new focus on “long Covid” is justified.

And I will happily put a disclaimer here- I have my own personal reasons which I admit have clearly impacted my views on this, as I have seen someone very close to me messed around for 6 months by the healthcare system due to lockdown and restrictions to eventually receive some deviating news only very recently. So as I said in another post, if someone wants to debate the merits of lockdown then that’s fine. But let’s stop pretending it’s for the equal benefit of everybody as it’s just not. You ask me what could the consequences be of a lot of people contacting virus induced ME? I ask you what are the consequences of many people not having access to the tests and treatments they require? Because I can answer that question right now if you want.
 
Thank god for that, you had me worried with the 66k complications. And of course I saw on here about the brothers aged 29 and 30 that got seriously ill and one died. But that must be fake news too as it only affects the old and seriously ill. I don't know why they are trying to pull our legs so much.
How many of those dead died in a road traffic accident tho Dave?

Ive heard that everybody who gets run over they put the cause of death as cov19.

Collateral damage in the libertarian's pursuit of their fundamental human right to get themselves to a Turkish barbers, eat in a restaurant run by a 'hipster' ripping them off in exchange for a plate full of muck, and get bladdered.
 
the plan is to vaccinate only those who are at considerable risk?

I'd imagine this is just a fact of logistics. You can't vaccinate 65 million in just a few weeks. So it stands to reason you target the most vulnerable first.

And yet because it’s Covid-19 potentially causing these issues it’s all of a sudden a huge deal?

To get virus induced ME (which I had/have) you need a real nasty virus, well this looks to be the worst one seen in our lifetimes and it spreads like wildfire. So ergo with the amount of population getting this it must increase the risk of an ME crisis in its wake.

I ask you what are the consequences of many people not having access to the tests and treatments they require?

I assume by this you mean cancer patients etc.? This is of course difficult but if the virus gets out of hand and the hospitals have no capacity as they are full with covid patients then there won't be any treatments for anything else. You will have heart attack victims and whatnot taken to hospital but then they'll have a real risk of catching covid while convalescing .
 
30k affordable homes scrapped

45k job loses in arts and entertainment with many more to come.

Hospitality industry dying a slow death

Thousands of students not getting the education they paid for.

At what point do we look at the younger generation and the impact this is having on them?

People are genuinely being asked to sacrifice their careers and livelihoods for this.
 
30k affordable homes scrapped

45k job loses in arts and entertainment with many more to come.

Hospitality industry dying a slow death

Thousands of students not getting the education they paid for.

At what point do we look at the younger generation and the impact this is having on them?

People are genuinely being asked to sacrifice their careers and livelihoods for this.
The UK has a greater rate of infection now than that basket case the United States.

Maybe that'll concentrate your mind.
 
30k affordable homes scrapped

45k job loses in arts and entertainment with many more to come.

Hospitality industry dying a slow death

Thousands of students not getting the education they paid for.

At what point do we look at the younger generation and the impact this is having on them?


People are genuinely being asked to sacrifice their careers and livelihoods for this.

We don’t apparently.
 
My mind is concentrated on saving lives, industries and jobs.

We shouldn’t have to sacrifice one for the other.
That's a political decision, not a medical one. They can be saved with the will to save them. So it isn't a matter of either/or.
 
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