He does love a bit of “ long Covid “ doesn’t he ?
I’m surprised he’s only just latched onto it tbh.
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He does love a bit of “ long Covid “ doesn’t he ?
I’m surprised he’s only just latched onto it tbh.
Is that a Game of Thrones episode.
ForeverBlue92
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I still worry about catching it like (even though I know statistically my chances of getting really ill would be low) but I was always under the belief that when we went into lockdown in Spring the end goal was a vaccine for the majority of the population considering it still can be fatal regardless of age.
I feel now my chances of getting a vaccine in the next couple of years being low based on my age / health so statistically I imagine by then I'll have picked the virus up at some point.
I'll still stick to the rules but I can bet many others in my same boat wont however.
BlueStevie35
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Hospital figures - 60 (!!!) deaths were announced today, up 49 on yesterday and up 13 on last Tuesday. 50 deaths were in English hospitals, up 40 on yesterday and up 6 on last week with all occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average rises to 44.57
All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 75 deaths were announced today, up 56 on yesterday and up 4 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 53.14
For the 60 day cut off, 76 deaths were announced today, up 57 on yesterday’s eventual announced total of 19 and down 6 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 55.43
For the legacy/no cut off, 126 deaths were announced today, up 101 on yesterday’s eventual announced total of 25 and down 16 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 91.57
All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 75 deaths were announced today, up 56 on yesterday and up 4 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 53.14
For the 60 day cut off, 76 deaths were announced today, up 57 on yesterday’s eventual announced total of 19 and down 6 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 55.43
For the legacy/no cut off, 126 deaths were announced today, up 101 on yesterday’s eventual announced total of 25 and down 16 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 91.57
Do a Google or other search for "Long Covid". You'll get articles/reports you can read at your leisure.
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It's not a strategy, it's a reality.
Deckard2049
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The original article this debate has stemmed from (as you’ve mentioned yourself in other posts) says completely plainly that the vaccine task force do not see a majority of people as a priority for receiving the vaccine. It goes even further and states:
Less than half UK population to receive coronavirus vaccine, says task force head | Free to read
PM warns of ‘bumpy’ winter while data ‘issue’ blamed for 16,000-case backlog pushing numbers to record high
Ms Bingham said vaccination policy would be aimed at those “most at risk” and noted that vaccinating healthy people, who are much less likely to have severe outcomes from Covid-19, “could cause them some freak harm”, potentially tipping the scales in terms of the risk-benefit analysis.
I’m similar to you (late 20’s) and I too would not want to catch it. But it would be a statistical anomaly for either of us to suffer severe consequences if we did. I’m also extremely happy to stick to the rules. I always wear a mask when required and haven’t been out in a larger group than 5 since lockdown was lifted. As a single dude, these new measures are also screwing with my dating life but that’s by the by.
I personally just think that we need to move on from using fear as the ultimate persuader. The fact is you can no longer convince a large number of the population that we’re all in this together when the people in charge of the vaccine task force are clearly taking a targeted approach to various demographics. The idea “we’re all this together” based on equal risk is just so false that it’s embarrassing that people still try and peddle it. A targeted demographic approach is apparently suitable for the vaccine but not for restrictions and lockdowns?
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This article kind of sums it up for me. On the one hand I agree trying to only shield the vulnerable is pretty impossible. However the reaction to the strategy laid out here has one scientist opposed to it refer to it as a plan to “cull the sick and disabled”. That’s just extreme hyperbole- the kind some posters here utilise when you present evidence and suggest that perhaps lockdowns aren’t the greatest strategy.
If someone wants to advocate and argue the merits of a lockdown then that’s fine. But don’t tell me it’s for the benefit of us all because it’s just nonsense at this point. You want young people to stay locked up in uni halls unable to even go food shopping but they won’t be getting the vaccine anytime soon? What about people who have been massively suffering with their mental health for months on end now? No vaccine for them either. It’s ludicrous.
davek
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Yeah, it's all fake news to stop 'liberty loving individuals' stuffing their gobs with pasties, lifting weights and having their back crack and sack waxed.
'sake.
Deckard2049
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How many cases result in the patient suffering long term effects?
davek
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There are currently (declared) 66,000 cases being treated.
It's all fake news though.
Billy Dean
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Looking forward to his well-researched critique.
ForeverBlue92
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The original article this debate has stemmed from (as you’ve mentioned yourself in other posts) says completely plainly that the vaccine task force do not see a majority of people as a priority for receiving the vaccine. It goes even further and states:
Less than half UK population to receive coronavirus vaccine, says task force head | Free to read
PM warns of ‘bumpy’ winter while data ‘issue’ blamed for 16,000-case backlog pushing numbers to record highwww.ft.com
Ms Bingham said vaccination policy would be aimed at those “most at risk” and noted that vaccinating healthy people, who are much less likely to have severe outcomes from Covid-19, “could cause them some freak harm”, potentially tipping the scales in terms of the risk-benefit analysis.
I’m similar to you (late 20’s) and I too would not want to catch it. But it would be a statistical anomaly for either of us to suffer severe consequences if we did. I’m also extremely happy to stick to the rules. I always wear a mask when required and haven’t been out in a larger group than 5 since lockdown was lifted. As a single dude, these new measures are also screwing with my dating life but that’s by the by.
I personally just think that we need to move on from using fear as the ultimate persuader. The fact is you can no longer convince a large number of the population that we’re all in this together when the people in charge of the vaccine task force are clearly taking a targeted approach to various demographics. The idea “we’re all this together” based on equal risk is just so false that it’s embarrassing that people still try and peddle it. A targeted demographic approach is apparently suitable for the vaccine but not for restrictions and lockdowns?
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This article kind of sums it up for me. On the one hand I agree trying to only shield the vulnerable is pretty impossible. However the reaction to the strategy laid out here has one scientist opposed to it refer to it as a plan to “cull the sick and disabled”. That’s just extreme hyperbole- the kind some posters here utilise when you present evidence and suggest that perhaps lockdowns aren’t the greatest strategy.
If someone wants to advocate and argue the merits of a lockdown then that’s fine. But don’t tell me it’s for the benefit of us all because it’s just nonsense at this point. You want young people to stay locked up in uni halls unable to even go food shopping but they won’t be getting the vaccine anytime soon? What about people who have been massively suffering with their mental health for months on end now? No vaccine for them either. It’s ludicrous.
Yeah thats what I was getting at, I've lost out on work and income because of it but im happy to do my bit to keep as many people safe as possible - but all this "we are in this together" is complete BS when I doubt I'll ever see a vaccine even if I could still statistically end up on a ventilator from this thing.
Deckard2049
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However, the virus emerged only at the end of 2019 before going global earlier this year so there is a lack of long-term data.
There is nowhere near enough scientific data at this point nor has there been enough analysis. Fatigue is listed as one of the main symptoms of people who are said to be suffering with long Covid- that’s so incredibly vague that at this point it’s not worth getting worked up over.
And before you mention the more severe side effects:
20-year-old Virginia man has leg amputated after severe complications from flu
A Petersburg family is opening up about a severe case of the flu that led to their loved one having to have his leg amputated.
Cold and Flu Complications
Even a mild cold or bout of influenza can compromise your immune system and lead to other health concerns.
www.everydayhealth.com
Let’s not pretend that long term complications from any virus are not possible. This is nothing new.
Can someone please give there thoughts to this...
Back in March etc London seemed to be hit hard. Now it's not so much.
Back in March where I live was averaging 4 or 5 cases a day. Now it's approx 20 or so with restrictions in place.
Could it be that right now the virus is peaking in places it didn't hit back in March etc and rather than a second wave, its simply the first for many places?
Like I don't get how pretty much where I live saw small cases immediately after lockdown with no restrictions previously, yet now, with restrictions we have lots more.
Its a fairly affluent, majority White British area with little deprivation. I'm including this as my understanding is BAME and more deprivation seems to have an impact on the chances of catching the virus.
Back in March etc London seemed to be hit hard. Now it's not so much.
Back in March where I live was averaging 4 or 5 cases a day. Now it's approx 20 or so with restrictions in place.
Could it be that right now the virus is peaking in places it didn't hit back in March etc and rather than a second wave, its simply the first for many places?
Like I don't get how pretty much where I live saw small cases immediately after lockdown with no restrictions previously, yet now, with restrictions we have lots more.
Its a fairly affluent, majority White British area with little deprivation. I'm including this as my understanding is BAME and more deprivation seems to have an impact on the chances of catching the virus.
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