It always fascinates me how an academic can have such a sloppy relationship with facts. It's an approach I could understand in a radio shock jock or something, but not from an academic.
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It always fascinates me how an academic can have such a sloppy relationship with facts. It's an approach I could understand in a radio shock jock or something, but not from an academic.
Don't really know much about the politics of coronavirus but this article is interesting from the BBC.
www.bbc.co.uk
Covid: Is it time we learned to live with the virus?
Infections are rising and new restrictions being introduced. But is that the right thing to do?
www.bbc.co.uk
Because they don’t want to voluntarily close their doors, sack all their staff and lose their livelihood ?
That is what would happen were these places to close without additional government support.
The majority of independent restaurants survive on thin margins but employ hundreds of thousands of people in the UK. They are following the government guidelines but you’ve decided it’s acceptable to make blanket character assassinations because they aren’t doing what you think is best to stop the virus spread.
Bizarre.
ForeverBlue92
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Unless the virus has passed through most of the population by the end of the year (which is unlikely) or runs out of steam and dies off - we'll be in this situation until a vaccine is found which is why for me we need to find other ways of managing/living with it.
The fact we opened up in July and are not even into October and we are on the verge of another lockdown tells you how unfeasible this whole thing is - not just on the economy but on education in which the young generation will come out of this with a lack of education imo.
It aint 1918 anymore - people are travelling around the country/world in their thousands daily and with that brings much easier transmission on a global scale - even if the UK became Covid free - all it takes is one person to bring it back to the UK from abroad and its a domino effect - how did it get here in the first place.
davek
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Any place that has close and extensive contact between people are super spreaders. The importance of pubs and restaurants is that they proliferate. Between them there are about 80,000 establishments of that nature. Individually they wont, due to scale, be greater incubators than a school or a large workplace, but collectively they will contribute most I would have thought . There have been many instances of pubs and restaurants forced to close on the post lockdown period, for sure. And pubs especially have the problem of limiting human behaviour - social distancing in a place that encourages social interaction.
davek
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The time for nuance is over. We need decisive and bold action.
davek
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You've been ignoring the anecdotal evidence of others on this thread that underlined my point about post-lockdown upturn in the fortunes of restaurants - I invited you to respnd to their posts but you declined...whch undelines the dishonesty and selectivity of your approach on here.
Just for taking the piss out of those of us who cautioned about a second wave you should keep your head down on this thread.
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i get flamed daily for posting similar the high horse click is strong in here be aware you will get a backlash
I didn’t respond because it’s irrelevant and I’ve already told you.
Industry data shows a 50% YoY decline in July, and Eat out to Help out has increased midweek takings while do nothing to help weekends.
You stated restaurants were “coining it in” and the best you could do is quote a poster last night who said in his own words that business in the establishment he was referencing was about equal to last year at best.
If you want to post some evidence that isn’t anecdotal that backs up your “coining it in” theory then I’ll be interested.
In case you’re interested in actual facts here’s an article:
Ignoring the manic one, as with society more generally, there is probably evidence that the industry could have done more to help itself.
More evidence points to bars adding to COVID-19 spread
Like the data from Amsterdam that was shared the other day, there was significantly more cases linked to those who stayed in clubs past midnight than those who left before then. There seems to be a case for venues being stricter with how they managed patrons so that people could still enjoy the odd pint or meal, but going out and getting bladdered wasn't allowed.
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2 close mates have tested positive in the last week, both in their mid 30s and based in Knowsley area yet caught it in different settings as they haven't been around each other.
Both are having a really bad time with it. One said the headaches are unbearable and feels like his chest is in a vice.
I'm sure they'll make a full recovery and be fine, but doesn't sound too pleasant.
Both are having a really bad time with it. One said the headaches are unbearable and feels like his chest is in a vice.
I'm sure they'll make a full recovery and be fine, but doesn't sound too pleasant.
Ignoring the manic one, as with society more generally, there is probably evidence that the industry could have done more to help itself.
More evidence points to bars adding to COVID-19 spread
www.cidrap.umn.edu
Like the data from Amsterdam that was shared the other day, there was significantly more cases linked to those who stayed in clubs past midnight than those who left before then. There seems to be a case for venues being stricter with how they managed patrons so that people could still enjoy the odd pint or meal, but going out and getting bladdered wasn't allowed.
Absolutely. I’m not defending the industry wholesale.
The thing I have no time for is black and white nonsense which this thread is full of.
Labelling all restaurateurs and landlords as money obsessed psychos who don’t care about public health or wellbeing, as an example.
davek
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...and that has what relevance for what I and others claimed?I didn’t respond because it’s irrelevant and I’ve already told you.
Industry data shows a 50% YoY decline in July, and Eat out to Help out has increased midweek takings while do nothing to help weekends.
You stated restaurants were “coining it in” and the best you could do is quote a poster last night who said in his own words that business in the establishment he was referencing was about equal to last year at best.
If you want to post some evidence that isn’t anecdotal that backs up your “coining it in” theory then I’ll be interested.
In case you’re interested in actual facts here’s an article:
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