Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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That little twerp, Matt Hancock, trying to defend himself instead of taking responsibility for the testing chaos.

‘When you have a free testing service, it’s inevitable that demand rises’

I see the Tories are still at it in their long game of splitting up the NHS.

Also, btw, it isn’t a free service, our taxes pay for it.
 
im multi tasking so don’t think I’m avoiding discussing your reply but just on the vaccine none of us have any idea whether we’ll get one and if we do when do we ? I mean we can hope , speculate even pray but we simply have not a single clue so to say that we’ll definitely have one in a set time Period is wrong isn’t it ? I think we probably will and I certainly hope so but in reality we just don’t know so the fact it might be a lengthy period away can’t just be disbursed our of hand can it ?
That's why I say 'at least some protection' in terms of amount of time it'll protect for.

I have no doubt we have vaccimnes already that produce antibodies, it'll be how long it can protect us for and also their efficacy.

As said: a combo of better (more savvy) human inter-action + new drugs and techniques to treat people in ICUs + a vaccine of whatever grade will hopefully see us over the hump. That's what I think realistically can happen.

We'll see.
 
That little twerp, Matt Hancock, trying to defend himself instead of taking responsibility for the testing chaos.

‘When you have a free testing service, it’s inevitable that demand rises’

I see the Tories are still at it in their long game of splitting up the NHS.

Also, btw, it isn’t a free service, our taxes pay for it.
He's had it. He has the antibodies, he doesn't give a shiny one about testing. Same as the scum he works for.
 
*Activate Skynet*

Surprised you're still able to type with that poor skin of yours. Glad to see you have kept your sense of humour intact.

There have been some positives for the lockdown... got to spend every day with my family, watching my little one grow up. Haven't had to travel to work, down to one car, not wasting any cash.

How's it going for you?
 
Hospital figures - 16 deaths were announced today, up 15 on yesterday and up 7 on last Tuesday. 14 deaths were in English hospitals, up 13 on yesterday and up 6 on last week with 13 occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average rises to 9.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 27 deaths were announced today, up 18 on yesterday and down 5 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 11.14

For the 60 day cut off, 40 deaths were announced today, up 31 on yesterday and down 9 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 18.86

For the legacy/no cut off, 91 deaths were announced today, up 81 on yesterday and down 15 on last Tuesday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 53.57
 
I didn't claim to be an epidemiologist at all; I asked why exactly that if these places are the be all and end all of virus spikes, why didn't we see it shoot up as soon as they opened, especially in gyms and salons, even cafes to an extent which will have exactly the environment come rain or shine. You presented some absolute twaddle as an argument based on ’ventilation’. It's bollocks.


I'm handing in my notice as we speak. Dave has spoken, I know nothing of professional sport.
Tbf there are a load of factors that meant that these things opening meant that the numbers didn’t pick up immediately. First of all people were less likely to use them as they first opened, the weather meant that when they did use them they could sit or stand outside (in the case of pubs etc) and finally snd probably most importantly the cases were starting from a lower base. So with a fairly steady growth rate it would seem like the number of new cases were low at first as they are growing from a lower base. However, as we’ve seen in the wave, as the base rises, it’s much easier to see that growth and how quickly it accelerates the numbers.

That being said, I’m not in favour of closing these places. We are in a different place then we were in March. From what I can gather from the things I’ve read, the marginal gains from complete lockdown v the combination of social distancing, face coverings and hand washing isn’t worth shutting the economy completely. We are testing more now but the death rate isn’t really rising. That tells me that we are likely treating the virus better, the vulnerable are shielding effectively and in all likelihood we didn’t capture the prevalence of cases in the first wave due to lack of testing. All of which is a positive for me. If people continue to distance et al, isolate if they display symptoms then I think that will control it to an extent that the health services can manage it.

What they need to do is massively increase testing capacity. The fact that they’ve had this time to build that capacity and they can’t meet demand is just not good enough frankly. Without it, more stringent measures will be necessary, despite the costs associated.
 
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