Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Chozz]

They have to be shut down; same with universities. Remote learning for all but the kids of key workers until the virus is under control again.

Are you insane? That's your answer? Stop everything everyone. Don't move. Go back inside your homes and just wait a few months until this nasty old virus goes away.

You are delusional man.

 

[COYBL25]

Remote learning sounds fine in theory, and would be fine for university students, but when my granddaughters school tried it, it was not only a bit of a shambles, but the content and learning of an hours video contained the same as 2-3 minutes of myself teaching her. I would like schools to develop the right material and processes for remote learning, but I’m not really sure that the teaching unions would be for it. Once material is developed and class videos produced we would not need quite so many teachers......

The kids that suffer most from remote learning are the kids from disadvantaged backgrounds.

They may have parents who can’t be arsed, they may not even have WiFi or they may live in a chaotic household.

Remote learning for any length of time would mean these kids would become a lost generation.

Kids need to be in school full stop.

 

[davek]

Are you insane? That's your answer? Stop everything everyone. Don't move. Go back inside your homes and just wait a few months until this nasty old virus goes away.

You are delusional man.

Are you for real? You dont think it's an utter killer? Take a look at the global death toll heading to a million.

In any case "stopping everything" is NOT what Ilm saying.

 

[Chozz]

Are you for real? You dont think it's an utter killer? Take a look at the global death toll heading to a million.

In any case "stopping everything" is NOT what Ilm saying.

Hi Dave. Not sure if you know this, but there are also quite a number of other illnesses out there in this big world of ours. Meningitis, cancer, leukaemia, influenza, heart disease, alzheimer's, stroke and cerebrovascular diseases. All of which dwarf the numbers of this Covid-19 stuff. Meanwhile it drains healthcare resources from many people in need of dire assistance for treatment for those diseases mentioned.

So many people have died in the last 6 months from delayed or postponed appointments or simply being too scared to go to a hospital for fear of getting covid. Not to mention the psychological impact of has had on people. So don't spout this rubbish as it's the only thing of importance in the world right now.

Your narrow mindedness towards the issue is the same as many of the mainstream sheep that have been brainwashed by the media and their fear mongering campaign

 

[peteblue]

Well like anything else, it will get better and smoother over time. And it's uneven: some kids thrive with the format, others struggle - and you'll get that with face-to-face teaching.

Don‘t get me wrong, a mix of video type tutorials and teacher led on line discussions can work, but I honestly do not believe that the teaching unions will allow it to be successful. Anyone who has done any OU type courses knows that with the right material it can be done, but kids, young and older also need to mix with others. I was absolutely against closing infant and junior school because it was obvious what would happen in certain households due to no fault of their own, and really for absolutely no Covid benefit. But we will muddle through I suppose.....

 

[zzr45]

First of all, my position was always that they should have been shut down right through the summer. Second, if you are going to have them open, then it was safer (not safe, SAFER) to open them when the R-number in the population was at a low point...which is what happened after the lockdown took effect AND the better weather menat that less people were spending time indoors.

I do hope that claifies matters for you. This is basic stuff, but you choose to present yourself as an epidemiologist when you're just a rambling voice on a football forum.

I didn't claim to be an epidemiologist at all; I asked why exactly that if these places are the be all and end all of virus spikes, why didn't we see it shoot up as soon as they opened, especially in gyms and salons, even cafes to an extent which will have exactly the environment come rain or shine. You presented some absolute twaddle as an argument based on ’ventilation’. It's bollocks.

@zzr45

Oh and the irony of you calling him a rambling voice on the internetlol

I'm handing in my notice as we speak. Dave has spoken, I know nothing of professional sport.

 

[Kenshin]

...it is one of the key things we MUST do if the virus this winter isn't to kill tens of thousands.

As always, this is basically a health v economy issue. The real reason those kids are going back to school is not schooling and socialising it's to allow their parents to be sent back to work.

Take it or leave it: if we are to avoid a huge surge in deaths we are going to have to go back into a March-May lockdown scenario again.

So not only are you comfortable with people losing their business and careers.

But you also want children to stop getting an education massively impacting their future as well?!

Where do you stop with this? Should we just call it quits and have a 40 year lockdown and write off all the kids and adults who aren't in a essential job?

Kill them that way?

 

[Harryflashman]

I see 18-24 year olds taking the hardest hit of the crisis in relation to employment based on the latest figures , as the furlough scheme starts to wind down another 156.000 within that bracket losing their jobs . Also disproportionately impacting part time workers and women .

im sure we some will dismiss that without a care though , they’ll all he fine right ? I’m alright jack

 

[davek]

I didn't claim to be an epidemiologist at all; I asked why exactly that if these places are the be all and end all of virus spikes, why didn't we see it shoot up as soon as they opened, especially in gyms and salons, even cafes to an extent which will have exactly the environment come rain or shine. You presented some absolute twaddle as an argument based on ’ventilation’. It's bollocks.


I'm handing in my notice as we speak. Dave has spoken, I know nothing of professional sport.

No, I gave you the answer and now you show your ihgnorance of the situation.

As for your professional sport role: I can only hope it has f.a. to do with Everton, though from our past few seasons I could believe you were at the heart of it.

 

[davek]

I see 18-24 year olds taking the hardest hit of the crisis in relation to employment based on the latest figures , as the furlough scheme starts to wind down another 156.000 within that bracket losing their jobs . Also disproportionately impacting part time workers and women .

im sure we some will dismiss that without a care though , they’ll all he fine right ? I’m alright jack

Yes, I can assure you they WILL be alright. Believe it ot not there are worse things in life than losing a job - like losing your life to a deadly virus., for example.

There's some utter tosh being posted about young people losing their jobs and kids being denied schooling; it's a massive fig leaf for many to hide behind because they want their corner of the ecomnony left untouched and / or their leisure activities left untouched.

 

[davek]

Hi Dave. Not sure if you know this, but there are also quite a number of other illnesses out there in this big world of ours. Meningitis, cancer, leukaemia, influenza, heart disease, alzheimer's, stroke and cerebrovascular diseases. All of which dwarf the numbers of this Covid-19 stuff. Meanwhile it drains healthcare resources from many people in need of dire assistance for treatment for those diseases mentioned.

So many people have died in the last 6 months from delayed or postponed appointments or simply being too scared to go to a hospital for fear of getting covid. Not to mention the psychological impact of has had on people. So don't spout this rubbish as it's the only thing of importance in the world right now.

Your narrow mindedness towards the issue is the same as many of the mainstream sheep that have been brainwashed by the media and their fear mongering campaign

They are logistical and political decisions to deny people their right treatment. Youlre surley not advocating we tackle this next wave the same as we started off 'tackling' the last one?

 

[Harryflashman]

Yes, I can assure you they WILL be alright. Believe it ot not there are worse things in life than losing a job - like losing your life to a deadly virus., for example.

There's some utter tosh being posted about young people losing their jobs and kids being denied schooling; it's a massive fig leaf for many to hide behind because they want their corner of the ecomnony left untouched and / or their leisure activities left untouched.

have you ever struggled to feed your family , pay your bills, I don’t mean pay for a holiday or a new bike I mean make real tough decisions ? I don’t believe you have because if you have there isn’t a chance you speak like this , not a chance .

I had a period of my life where my income was pretty much zero . Trust me if you’d been there Maybe you’d be slightly more ‘empathetic’

 

[Chozz]

Yes, I can assure you they WILL be alright. Believe it ot not there are worse things in life than losing a job - like losing your life to a deadly virus., for example.

There's some utter tosh being posted about young people losing their jobs and kids being denied schooling; it's a massive fig leaf for many to hide behind because they want their corner of the ecomnony left untouched and / or their leisure activities left untouched.

Mers was a deadly virus. Covid-19 is not.

 

[Chozz]

They are logistical and political decisions to deny people their right treatment. Youlre surley not advocating we tackle this next wave the same as we started off 'tackling' the last one?

Did someone order some birdseye potato waffles? Cos that's what you're talking here mate. I'm bored. And I think you're just yanking our chain now. Nobody could be this bonkers as you

 

[davek]

have you ever struggled to feed your family , pay your bills, I don’t mean pay for a holiday or a new bike I mean make real tough decisions ? I don’t believe you have because if you have there isn’t a chance you speak like this , not a chance .

I had a period of my life where my income was pretty much zero . Trust me if you’d been there Maybe you’d be slightly more ‘empathetic’

Been in that position more times than i care to remember. I also know that if you're young enough you have the resilience to come through it.