Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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80% wages and they wont be thrown out on the streets, that's for sure.

spoken like someone that’s never struggled to pay his bills.


Thank God, no.

But I can empathise...it's a human condition you might want to try.

I find it a little surprising That you use a word like ‘empathise’ in this thread without a hint of irony .
 
Is that a serious question?

Those places reopened with the virus back under control and 'out of season' in terms of people being able to get out into the open and have buildings well ventilated.
That's not how viruses work, numbnuts. A salon or gym will just be as likely a source of infection if it's nice out or not. The same with pubs and restaurants.

You'll be telling us about miasmas next.
 
Hospital figures - Just one death was announced for today, 4 down on yesterday and 3 down on last Monday. The death cake from an English hospital, again with the same differentials to yesterday and last week and was recorded as happening yesterday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 8.29

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 9 deaths were announced today, up 4 on yesterday and up 6 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average rises slightly to 11.86

For the 60 day cut off, 9 deaths were announced today, up 4 on yesterday’s eventual announced total of 5 and up 5 on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 20.14

For the legacy/no cut off, 10 deaths were announced today, up 3 on yesterday’s eventual announced total of 7 and 2 up on last Monday. The 7 day rolling average rises slightly to 55.71
I hope 'death cake' is a typo, otherwise, if I have to go in to hospital for any reason I'm taking my own butties. lol
 
You sound more and more like Margaret Thatcher by each post.

No regard for people’s jobs or the hospitality industry. Let the industry shut down and throw millions of people on the scrapheap. Every man for himself and all that ey
Yeah, I'm positioned as Thatcher just so you can pour a few pints down your neck.

I argue the case for the sick and the vulnerable. That is all.
 
spoken like someone that’s never struggled to pay his bills.




I find it a little surprising That you use a word like ‘empathise’ in this thread without a hint of irony .
2.5M who have been shielding ALL THE TIME SINCE LOCKDOWN.

They are the constituency that anyone with a heart has at the forefront of their minds.

An inconvenient truth.
 
That's not how viruses work, numbnuts. A salon or gym will just be as likely a source of infection if it's nice out or not. The same with pubs and restaurants.

You'll be telling us about miasmas next.
They ventilate in summer much more than in winter.

Honest to God, are you even conscious?
 
They can bale out banks for years to the tune of a trillion quid.

And Im not talking about all the economy shutting down. I;m talking about:

  • pubs
  • bars
  • cafes
  • restaurants
  • salons
  • gyms
I dont thinnk we can afford to see those places open.

Hours on end in confined spaces in a second wave?

Not going to happen. Not one bit of it.

What would you do about schools?

 
We are living in a dystopian nightmare. Sometimes I suddenly forget what has happened, then I look around and see people wearing face masks and bizarre plastic visors. Every shop has infinite amounts of plastic screens and shields. There are bizarre one way system arrows painted on footpaths. And everywhere you look there are warning and hazard signs in yellow and black terrorizing us about this deathly plague. And not to mention being constantly screamed at to SOCIALLY DISTANCE or SANITISE YOUR HANDS for the fifteenth time...my skin is so sore at this point.

If you had been in a coma for even 6 months and woke up to this stuff, you'd think it was all a dream or you were in some kind of alternate universe.

The daily news is like a watching new episodes of the hunger games, where the BBC, SKY or RTE fire a cannon in the sky to announce the tributes who have died or contracted the dreaded disease. It's so bloody morbid. And its draining the life out society, emotionally, spiritually and mentally. People are becoming more reclusive and reluctant to touch or meet up. More paranoid. I mean you still have a good proportion who remain unaffected, but its polarized people.

I believe it's a genuinely highly contagious disease. In fact I'm certain that there are millions more cases unreported, maybe even a billion. Which makes it even more ridiculous, because we all know that from the start it's always been that 85% of cases are mild or asymptomatic and only about 1-5% develop into something more severe.

Death total in Ireland is approaching 1800, but the vast majority of those cases were all people with underlying health conditions (cancer sufferers, infirmed, obesity/diabetes, stroke victims and a huge number of the deaths were aged 85, 90 plus). Of course, no justification for these people to just die, however nobody is immortal last time I checked. And there is a strong certainty that majority of these deaths would have occurred in the next year or so.

The key should be to protect the vulnerable people. They are the ones most at risk. Not the entire general public. This virus will not just magically die out or disappear, it will mutate or adapt or variant to another strand. We cannot run or hide forever, it's a ridiculous plan. And one that only makes us weaker. For example look at the kids returning to school recently. They've been off school for 6 months, and after only 2 weeks back there are colds and runny noses every where. Because they've been cooped up in little bubbles too long.

Protect the sick, the elderly, the weak, the vulnerable, the infirmed and those most at risk. Let the rest of us get on with our lives.
 
We are living in a dystopian nightmare. Sometimes I suddenly forget what has happened, then I look around and see people wearing face masks and bizarre plastic visors. Every shop has infinite amounts of plastic screens and shields. There are bizarre one way system arrows painted on footpaths. And everywhere you look there are warning and hazard signs in yellow and black terrorizing us about this deathly plague. And not to mention being constantly screamed at to SOCIALLY DISTANCE or SANITISE YOUR HANDS for the fifteenth time...my skin is so sore at this point.

If you had been in a coma for even 6 months and woke up to this stuff, you'd think it was all a dream or you were in some kind of alternate universe.

The daily news is like a watching new episodes of the hunger games, where the BBC, SKY or RTE fire a cannon in the sky to announce the tributes who have died or contracted the dreaded disease. It's so bloody morbid. And its draining the life out society, emotionally, spiritually and mentally. People are becoming more reclusive and reluctant to touch or meet up. More paranoid. I mean you still have a good proportion who remain unaffected, but its polarized people.

I believe it's a genuinely highly contagious disease. In fact I'm certain that there are millions more cases unreported, maybe even a billion. Which makes it even more ridiculous, because we all know that from the start it's always been that 85% of cases are mild or asymptomatic and only about 1-5% develop into something more severe.

Death total in Ireland is approaching 1800, but the vast majority of those cases were all people with underlying health conditions (cancer sufferers, infirmed, obesity/diabetes, stroke victims and a huge number of the deaths were aged 85, 90 plus). Of course, no justification for these people to just die, however nobody is immortal last time I checked. And there is a strong certainty that majority of these deaths would have occurred in the next year or so.

The key should be to protect the vulnerable people. They are the ones most at risk. Not the entire general public. This virus will not just magically die out or disappear, it will mutate or adapt or variant to another strand. We cannot run or hide forever, it's a ridiculous plan. And one that only makes us weaker. For example look at the kids returning to school recently. They've been off school for 6 months, and after only 2 weeks back there are colds and runny noses every where. Because they've been cooped up in little bubbles too long.

Protect the sick, the elderly, the weak, the vulnerable, the infirmed and those most at risk. Let the rest of us get on with our lives.

The impact of Covid has only just begun. The mentality won't go away for a while, most likely years, by which time it will be normal.

Some industries will go bust, as much as I feel for the people, its the way of the economy we are trying to protect. Like say Cinemas, small, crammed in, no ventilation, cheaper alternatives... will be surprised if they make it.

We will have to adapt, the economy will adapt and jobs will with it. We might even see value in jobs that currently are bottom of the pile. Business never operates in national interest, quite often owned by other nations, our millionaires shown up for being the money grabbing people we really knew they were.

Those looking to the ideal past, I'm not sure you'll see it again. The government are already begging people back to the office, its just not going to happen. When such an event happens, life rarely returns to as it was before.

In some ways, that virus has shown us a way. Its done more for the environment in 6 months than mankind has done in 100 years. Its showing us that our schooling is dated, are daily lifes wasteful, are governments slack, no one saves for a rainy day anymore, and that our true heroes don't wear capes. With much pain, it has come with human sacrifice, how often is that the case.

I feel for those that have lost loved ones, I hope that I don't become part of those statistics. The company I work for has so far lost 28 people to the virus. 28 families without a loved one. In percentage terms I expect its nothing, imagine your life being evaluated to 0.0001%. Then go and trot those stats over to one of those 28 families and be sure to let us know how you get on.

I do get your sentiment, there are no doubt better ways. But please dont ask us to consider the condition of your hands whilst you belittle life to a statistic.
 
They ventilate in summer much more than in winter.

Honest to God, are you even conscious?
No. You have decided they should and therefore they do. If a gym or salon has it's doors shut, same with a pub or restaurant it doesn't matter if it's summer or winter, the same amount of ’air’ is still in the building. Add to the fact again that it isn't how viruses spread.

I love your reductive reasoning as ever, it's September therefore it is cold and pubs and restaurants will have their doors shut compared to July, which apparently is ’out of season’ for the hospitality industry gyms and salons, whatever the hell that means.
 
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