Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[COYBL25]

There’ll be calls for another cavalry charge and compulsory euthanasia for those under 30 the way things are going.

 

[Brennan]

Over the past fortnight, they've sadly had twice the number of cases per capita as the UK. Thankfully, thus far the death toll hasn't risen too much, but it seems unlikely that will remain so. Does anyone know the situation in France and Spain, both of whom are having a huge number of cases? Is their death toll staying low, or are they seeing it cross over from young/healthy people into more vulnerable?

France rolling average daily deaths has gone from 7 to 15 in the past two weeks.

Sadly Spain are having a rougher time, they've gone up to 68 deaths per day now.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Bullingdon and his shambolic crew have made a right pigs ear of this situation , how many u turns have they made this latest one about 6 people is farcical , so you could have 60 people in a workplace or a school but you cannot have more than 6 in your home for a dinner or something , no wonder people are not complying with the advice

I suspect the way things will unfold over autumn is that they will try to keep things that are important (such as workplaces and schools) open by being harsher on things that are not as important (such as social gatherings). On the surface, it seems rational.

 

[anxiouswarrior]

People's homes are where the spread is worst.

Schooling and working are necessary, having a Sunday lunch isn't.

You can't call things a U turn every time they change, we're in a pandemic. Of course governments have to change the rules as the virus spreads or dies down.

Don't take it from the government, take it from the experts. Judge the decisions on the scientific basis behind them, not the fact that the Tories are nobheads:

Indeed so what was a that stay safe stay at home garbage about then 5 months ago , it was only about saving the NHS not about the virus

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Indeed so what was a that stay safe stay at home garbage about then 5 months ago , it was only about saving the NHS not about the virus

They weren't exactly keeping that a secret though

 

[degsy]

My lad had a new contract drawn up at his work to pretty much make WFH compulsory. He is fine with it, but many wouldnt be cool with it I guess.

Somedays, when I was at work I wished I was at home...and other days at home, I wished I was at work...until I got there, then etc etc

 

[Walken]

Over the past fortnight, they've sadly had twice the number of cases per capita as the UK. Thankfully, thus far the death toll hasn't risen too much, but it seems unlikely that will remain so. Does anyone know the situation in France and Spain, both of whom are having a huge number of cases? Is their death toll staying low, or are they seeing it cross over from young/healthy people into more vulnerable?

I was in Spain recently and the nurses and doctors I know there said they aren't busy with covid yet but are prepping themselves for it, especially in Madrid and catalonia. The cases started rising about a month ago but hospital admissions and death rates haven't matched that rise (but are trickling up) whether that is because a lag that transfers from healthier age groups to more vulnerable ones will be longer than the 14 day figure we've become used to or because of getting infected out of circulation quicker no one really seems to know for sure. Understandably a lot is hypothesis at this stage, and we are all learning as we go.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

France rolling average daily deaths has gone from 7 to 15 in the past two weeks.

Sadly Spain are having a rougher time, they've gone up to 68 deaths per day now.

France had 7400 new cases 10 days ago. Mad.

 

[roydo]

Somedays, when I was at work I wished I was at home...and other days at home, I wished I was at work...until I got there, then etc etc

Yeah, know what you mean. I have worked from home/independently for years and years, but always had an office to go to, if needed or just fancied.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I was in Spain recently and the nurses and doctors I know there said they aren't busy with covid yet but are prepping themselves for it, especially in Madrid and catalonia. The cases started rising about a month ago but hospital admissions and death rates haven't matched that rise (but are trickling up) whether that is because a lag that transfers from healthier age groups to more vulnerable ones will be longer than the 14 day figure we've become used to or because of getting infected out of circulation quicker no one really seems to know for sure. Understandably a lot is hypothesis at this stage, and we are all learning as we go.

We do appear to have gotten better at managing the more serious cases, which is a good thing, so hopefully any increase in cases won't have the tragic consequences seen in spring, especially if it can be largely kept out of care homes, which seemed to be the main area of damage earlier in the year.

 

[Walken]

We do appear to have gotten better at managing the more serious cases, which is a good thing, so hopefully any increase in cases won't have the tragic consequences seen in spring, especially if it can be largely kept out of care homes, which seemed to be the main area of damage earlier in the year.

You'd assume that's the case, the experience of the first wave or whatever you want to call it must allow for that. Especially in the UK were many don't have any experience of these sorts of things (tory governments allowing our emergency pandemic preparedness to go out the window won't have helped). Certainly from what goat was saying there is a plan in place now for localised spreads in care homes

 

[davmaher]

Matt Hancock might just be my most detested politician. He needs sacking and moving far away from any important decisions.

He meets the only 2 criteria that matter if you are a minister in this government:

1. Complete and utter loyalty to Boris Johnson/Dominic Cummings.
2. Complete and utter belief in Brexit.

Nothing else such as competence etc. are of any real importance.

 

[tsubaki]

I suspect the way things will unfold over autumn is that they will try to keep things that are important (such as workplaces and schools) open by being harsher on things that are not as important (such as social gatherings). On the surface, it seems rational.

They could have kept far more of normality open though, if they’d done this properly.

That things are this bad now, before the flu season starts, is alarming (in fact there’s an opportunity here to have a far less damaging flu season if they do the right things here).

 

[Jebus_lives]

Hopefully the new messaging will make a lot of the law/guidance (is anyone sure at this point which is which?) clearer.

The proposed 'Space, Face, Wash' is simpler to understand as an instruction than previous messaging.

 

[evilwebby]

A lot of analysis is now being done to try to understand why death rate is not tracking infection rate at the same level as we saw in the initial outbreak:

Coronavirus: Why fewer people in the UK are dying with the disease

Increased testing is changing the national picture and how much we know about the transmission of the disease.

news.sky.com