Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[roydo]

Trains and buses are rammed apparently, with a good mix of workers and school kids alike. Which is going to be worse, this 10 times a week, or one birthday per year?

Its tricky aint it? If you have to go to school or work, and have to use a bus or train, I really struggle to think what folk can do to stay safe. Masks obvs, but are folk wearing them in your experience?

 

[roydo]

Let's recap this:

I said you got calls wrong on Covid19

You ask me how you did

I tell you you stated that Euro governments were alarmist to take lockdown action early in March

You ask me for proof

I provide it by linking to a post of yours where you state they were 'over reacting'


How do I need to find a better example than that?

...and there's me stating you were someone prepared to hold your hand up for a mistake made.

Re read the thread back then mate.

And for the record, I had already been in lockdown for 3 weeks on 3rd March, still am, and will be till 3rd March next year most likely.

 

[Brennan]

Trains and buses are rammed apparently, with a good mix of workers and school kids alike. Which is going to be worse, this 10 times a week, or one birthday per year?

66 million people have a birthday every year...

 

[Brennan]

Its tricky aint it? If you have to go to school or work, and have to use a bus or train, I really struggle to think what folk can do to stay safe. Masks obvs, but are folk wearing them in your experience?

Precisely.

Even so most office workers are still at home. I have to drive to work on the M25 and a journey that was usually 1:25 is only taking me 1:05 at rush hour. Friend of mine who goes on the tube into London Bridge says the journey is still noticeably quieter than it was pre-covid.

The salient point is that we shouldn't be gathering wherever possible. Work and hospitality is inevitable for the survival of our heavily service based economy.

 

[roydo]

66 million people have a birthday every year...

Queen has 2. Bit risky.

 

[roydo]

Precisely.

Even so most office workers are still at home. I have to drive to work on the M25 and a journey that was usually 1:25 is only taking me 1:05 at rush hour. Friend of mine who goes on the tube into London Bridge says the journey is still noticeably quieter than it was pre-covid.

The salient point is that we shouldn't be gathering wherever possible. Work and hospitality is inevitable for the survival of our heavily service based economy.

My lad had a new contract drawn up at his work to pretty much make WFH compulsory. He is fine with it, but many wouldnt be cool with it I guess.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Over 1,000 cases reported in Czech yesterday. They've gone from heroes in spring to chumps in autumn.

 

[orchard]

Its tricky aint it? If you have to go to school or work, and have to use a bus or train, I really struggle to think what folk can do to stay safe. Masks obvs, but are folk wearing them in your experience?

I've no idea mate, I'm still pretty much shielding our young daughter (steroids for several years because of allergies, hospitalised a few times whilst an infant from viral effects to her lungs, although no government letter). The old dear that lives down the lane wears one when using the bus, local primary school staff and pupils aren't, a department where Mrs works had a confirmed case yesterday, not hers I hasten to add.

I was just commenting on Reddit anecdotes from yesterday - someone complaining public transport's rammed with no mittigation, car on order , won't arrive until next week, so walking 2 or 4 hours a day for the week to avoid the carnage. Plenty confirming the situation.

We think we've had it, but must be horrible for those in your situation, but where you have to endure the above...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I miss the bookmark functionality as it would make vaulting so much easier.

 

[roydo]

I've no idea mate, I'm still pretty much shielding our young daughter (steroids for several years because of allergies, hospitalised a few times whilst an infant from viral effects to her lungs, although no government letter). The old dear that lives down the lane wears one when using the bus, local primary school staff and pupils aren't, a department where Mrs works had a confirmed case yesterday, not hers I hasten to add.

I was just commenting on Reddit anecdotes from yesterday - someone complaining public transport's rammed with no mittigation, car on order , won't arrive until next week, so walking 2 or 4 hours a day for the week to avoid the carnage. Plenty confirming the situation.

We think we've had it, but must be horrible for those in your situation, but where you have to endure the above...

Our situation is fine mate. Its quite simple; I dont get it, Mrs R doesnt get it. So I take every precaution, hardly go out, and potter in the garden and on here. But we are lucky that we can cope that easily; most have little choice but to increase the risk to themselves, as your wife's work place is an example.

 

[Brennan]

I miss the bookmark functionality as it would make vaulting so much easier.

*cough*

July 1st:

The UK had 9 times more cases than the Czech Republic, but the UK population is only 6 times greater than the Czech's.

 

[Harryflashman]

*cough*

might want to get that looked at mate , hear there is an issue with test availability mind .

 

[Bruce Wayne]

*cough*

Over the past fortnight, they've sadly had twice the number of cases per capita as the UK. Thankfully, thus far the death toll hasn't risen too much, but it seems unlikely that will remain so. Does anyone know the situation in France and Spain, both of whom are having a huge number of cases? Is their death toll staying low, or are they seeing it cross over from young/healthy people into more vulnerable?

 

[anxiouswarrior]

Bullingdon and his shambolic crew have made a right pigs ear of this situation , how many u turns have they made this latest one about 6 people is farcical , so you could have 60 people in a workplace or a school but you cannot have more than 6 in your home for a dinner or something , no wonder people are not complying with the advice

 

[Brennan]

Bullingdon and his shambolic crew have made a right pigs ear of this situation , how many u turns have they made this latest one about 6 people is farcical , so you could have 60 people in a workplace or a school but you cannot have more than 6 in your home for a dinner or something , no wonder people are not complying with the advice

People's homes are where the spread is worst.

Schooling and working are necessary, having a Sunday lunch isn't.

You can't call things a U turn every time they change, we're in a pandemic. Of course governments have to change the rules as the virus spreads or dies down.

Don't take it from the government, take it from the experts. Judge the decisions on the scientific basis behind them, not the fact that the Tories are nobheads:

Dr Michael Head, senior research fellow in global health at the University of Southampton, said: “Meeting indoors, particularly within the house of a friend or relative, increases the risks of transmission.

“There will be prolonged close contact, potentially over several hours. Rooms in households will be smaller and may be less well ventilated than in other larger indoors environments such as restaurants. There may be increased touching of shared objects, such as cutlery, and those meeting may well hug and kiss.

“All of these activities individually pose a small risk, but if enough low-risk activities take place, then the overall risk of transmission of Covid-19 increases.”

Professor Keith Neal, emeritus professor of the epidemiology of infectious diseases at the University of Nottingham, said transmission within households has been recognised as “one of the main routes of transmission from the earliest days of the pandemic”.

He said: “This is almost certainly due to the inability to keep distances within a house and the length of exposure time.


“Households mixing will lead to much more significant exposures (people closer together) and more time spent in contact than other areas where social distancing is easier (such as pubs and restaurants) and where masks are required (shops and public transport).

“Both degree of exposure and time spent are important.”

Prof Neal also commented on multi-generational families, saying: “It is the number of people in the household which is the key factor.

“Multi-generational families is about an increased risk in older people – who are more at risk of serious infection – acquiring Covid-19 from people they live with.”