Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Catfish Blues]

Well we're way off topic, but it's a relatively small step from banning smoking to giving people a list of things that they can and can't do. People want to smoke, so what? Let them. If its just a question of economics then just raise duty on ciggies as much as you need to be make the cost/benefit analysis positive for the public coffers.

But where does it stop? What if the government says that you must do this, or must not do that for the benefit of society? You MUST attend further education. You MUST get married and have 2 children with your spouse. You MUST surrender 50% of your income to payroll taxes? You MUSTN'T engage in rockclimbing, or you MUSTN'T drink more than 20 units of alcohol a week, or you MUSTN'T listen to, much less produce, ganster rap music?

Individual freedoms matter, but as I also like to point out, the other side of the coin to that is that you must also assume personal rather than collective responsibility.

I said nothing about banning things, or telling people what they can and can't do.

What I did say is we need to look at why people are doing things which are bad for them. After that, you need to try to break the cycle, which is generally learnt behaviour.

For sure, people need to exercise personal responsibility as well, but given, healthwise as a nation, we're not exactly doing great, it would surely seem to make sense to look at why, and actively try to do something about it ?

 

[COYBL25]

Just been to the gym. I didn’t do anything whilst there though, I just sat, because I can.

Did you not shout MURDERERS and SCUM out every now and again, just for the fun of it ?

 

[The binman chronicles]

Just been to the gym. I didn’t do anything whilst there though, I just sat, because I can.

I hoped you showed off your lung muscles with a set of heavy breathing reps? A cough at the end shows you are doing it right.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Is a successful contact tracing app possible? These countries think so.

Covid apps are getting bad press, but two of the most promising programs say there is still an important role for them in pandemic response.

www.technologyreview.com

 

[coollino]

Just been to the gym. I didn’t do anything whilst there though, I just sat, because I can.

Sat there just vibin'

 

[spectateur]

Sat there just vibin'

More likely ogling fit birds in lycra.

 

[RAFUH]

Careful now.

That sort of article doesn't tow the narrative that people keep telling each other.

It's a great example of the other side of the arguement with the whole pandemic. The part that people argue until they are blue in the face about. It's that argument that is apparantly wrong if a doctor isn't saying it.

Just shows that herd immunity works then, that people shouldn't fear for their lives and this reliance on numbers every day could be very much misplaced , possibly.....

That's if you agree with the article .

I don't think anyone said natural herd immunity was impossible to achieve. The issue was the toll it would take to get there.

Sweden as a test case for herd immunity may skew data a bit or from a US bias not be as applicable. Overall they have lower risk factors, not just in terms of individuals' health status, but as a country in socioeconomics and racial diversity.

 

[navidson]

Does the government/Public health report anything on the recovery rate?

 

[Kenshin]

I don't think anyone said natural herd immunity was impossible to achieve. The issue was the toll it would take to get there.

Sweden as a test case for herd immunity may skew data a bit or from a US bias not be as applicable. Overall they have lower risk factors, not just in terms of individuals' health status, but as a country in socioeconomics and racial diversity.

The thing is both herd and preventable are correct measures. They both work as Sweden is proving.

The problem us Brits had was that we did both back in march which gave the virus 3 weeks longer to spread. If we had locked down beginning of march it may have saved lives that were lost otherwise.

 

[summerisle]

'World beating', four days ago.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 6 is the announced total, 4 down on yesterday and one up on last Monday. All 6 were in English hospitals, with the same differentials as yesterday and last week. 4 of the 6 occurred in the past 10 days

 

[marnie]

All bars, cafes,restaurants and clubs to close at midnight from tonight.They can open from 7am until midnight until 23/08 and it will be reevaluated here in Greece.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Nooooo

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Boosting immune system a potential treatment strategy for COVID-19

New research from Washington University School of Medicine suggests that the immune systems of seriously ill COVID-19 patients can’t do enough to protect them from the virus. The researchers propose that boosting the activity of immune cells may be a good treatment strategy for COVID-19.

source.wustl.edu

 

[Barnfred 55]

All bars, cafes,restaurants and clubs to close at midnight from tonight.They can open from 7am until midnight until 23/08 and it will be reevaluated here in Greece.

Should do the same here