Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[witchdoc187]

I dont know mate. Its what is so annoying. A random 2 line article is on the radio, with absolutely no context at all. From what I see, the vast majority of folk are doing what they are asked to do, generally, quite cheerfully. So that suggests they are bothered, but not paralysed by fear.

My opinion is that if we just accept this as a new normal, things will be ok. There will be local outbreaks, but not the national lock down that some on here are salivating for. Hope I am right.

I just see loads of pictures of packed trains with people rushing to the seaside and no distancing at all but i guess its not the whole country. i wear a mask in Spain because if i dont i will be fined. I dont think i am particularly bothered about safety aspect but then i live in a tiny town with no cases at all. i dont mind wearing it into shops if i have to.

 

[Goat]

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

 

[roydo]

The problem is the number of contacts being traced from people affected by the virus. Fifty three percent according to this :

Coronavirus: Fix contact tracing or shut pubs, Mayor Andy Burnham says

Greater Manchester's mayor says the Covid test-and-trace system needs to be "fixed urgently".

www.bbc.co.uk

Thats the thing though. In a pub in the Midlands T&T worked pretty well. There was an article the other day that Bolton council did their own thing, and successfully traced pretty much everyone after an outbreak.

This centralised approach, whilst understandable in a way, needs to be localised. Said it months ago.

 

[summerisle]

Thats the thing though. In a pub in the Midlands T&T worked pretty well. There was an article the other day that Bolton council did their own thing, and successfully traced pretty much everyone after an outbreak.

This centralised approach, whilst understandable in a way, needs to be localised. Said it months ago.

So did public health experts, but the 'government' knew best.

 

[COYBL25]

 

[roydo]

So did public health experts, but the 'government' knew best.

I can kinda get why in the early days that was probably needed. But as it developed, to me, it became obvious that this is a random thing. Like Nicola Sturgeon was being all high (sic) and mighty a few weeks ago about how great they had dealt with it. Than Blammo, some divvie footballers have a brain fart and all of a sudden she is telling them off and Aberdeen is in lock down.

 

[orly]

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Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Those April numbers. Horrible.

 

[summerisle]

I can kinda get why in the early days that was probably needed. But as it developed, to me, it became obvious that this is a random thing. Like Nicola Sturgeon was being all high (sic) and mighty a few weeks ago about how great they had dealt with it. Than Blammo, some divvie footballers have a brain fart and all of a sudden she is telling them off and Aberdeen is in lock down.

Sorry, I don't understand the point you're making.

 

[roydo]

Sorry, I don't understand the point you're making.

I veered off piste a bit. It was one example, Aberdeen, which shows that no one should be too smug or comfortable that an area has somehow sorted themselves.

Point being was that localised enforcement, T&T, will be far more effective than some national approach now. Other than the usual mask/SD/soap message.

 

[evilwebby]

Interesting article, especially the bit about antibodies vs t-cells. We might have reached herd immunity while testing for the wrong thing and therefore not even have realised.

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[roydo]

Interesting article, especially the bit about antibodies vs t-cells. We might have reached herd immunity while testing for the wrong thing and therefore not even have realised.

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It wont load for me, but how effing Everton would that be.

 

[COYBL25]

Interesting article, especially the bit about antibodies vs t-cells. We might have reached herd immunity while testing for the wrong thing and therefore not even have realised.

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sebastianrushworth.com

It would’ve been political suicidal to adopt their approach anywhere else in Europe, hence why no one else has.

 

[Kenshin]

Highest number of positive tests for weeks and weeks today.

Circa 1100. So, thats actually not "that" many. But is it down to the lighter restrictions, more testing, test and trace getting better, the weather, folk getting careless, bit of all of the above?

If more tests are being done then more cases have been found.

People still have the virus , just significantly more fit and well people who are asymptomatic on a the whole. I find it interesting that we hear about the positive tests but never the type of cases. I feel it would be more helpful to hear that 70 cases were sick rather than just 70 cases.

It kinda creates two different worlds. Back in march cases were meaning deaths, now they aren't. It's still obviously important that the cases are still low and whatnot. I just wonder how many people are actually still getting sick from the virus and how many asymptomatic people are out of the positive tests, there is nothing telling us that.

But I'm still in the theory that if everyone on the country was tested tomorrow, we would see thousands of new cases overnight, even if they aren't sick.

 

[Kenshin]

Interesting article, especially the bit about antibodies vs t-cells. We might have reached herd immunity while testing for the wrong thing and therefore not even have realised.

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sebastianrushworth.com

Careful now.

That sort of article doesn't tow the narrative that people keep telling each other.

It's a great example of the other side of the arguement with the whole pandemic. The part that people argue until they are blue in the face about. It's that argument that is apparantly wrong if a doctor isn't saying it.

Just shows that herd immunity works then, that people shouldn't fear for their lives and this reliance on numbers every day could be very much misplaced , possibly.....

That's if you agree with the article .

 

[Neiler]

New Zealand marks 100 days without virus transmission

New Zealand marks 100 days without virus transmission

There are still 23 active cases but all were detected at the border.

www.thejournal.ie