Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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And all the other areas are completely fine?

Knowsley is the hotspot here and it has very, very few minorities.

Yeah only hotspot in Burnley. Same in Pendle, Nelson (Bradley and lomeshaye wards) and brierfield.

I don't blame them, angry at the council and police really. When I was out on Fri night loads of police checking pubs to check on social distancing but everyone knows in the areas above large gatherings have been happening with nothing done about it.
 
Yeah only hotspot in Burnley. Same in Pendle, Nelson (Bradley and lomeshaye wards) and brierfield.

I don't blame them, angry at the council and police really. When I was out on Fri night loads of police checking pubs to check on social distancing but everyone knows in the areas above large gatherings have been happening with nothing done about it.
Didn't the LA's only get the data yesterday? Have they been empowered to do anything about it, yet?
 
Yeah only hotspot in Burnley. Same in Pendle, Nelson (Bradley and lomeshaye wards) and brierfield.

I don't blame them, angry at the council and police really. When I was out on Fri night loads of police checking pubs to check on social distancing but everyone knows in the areas above large gatherings have been happening with nothing done about it.
As @Tubey said above its now racist to tackle the issue head on and you have to lock everything down rather than single out people based on culture, even if that's the cause.

Best case scenario is that it doesn't generate hate within communities if , like yourself have said you know what areas are affected to inflict a blanket punishment.

Personally I see the issue now is that it's too reactive and not focused. If you lock a city down because of a large outbreak in a factory , then clearly you can see what the issue is, yet the whole city suffers the concequences?

If there are large spikes at factories/warehouses etc then that won't go away, no matter how many people aren't allowed to visit family.
 
As @Tubey said above its now racist to tackle the issue head on and you have to lock everything down rather than single out people based on culture, even if that's the cause.

Best case scenario is that it doesn't generate hate within communities if , like yourself have said you know what areas are affected to inflict a blanket punishment.

Personally I see the issue now is that it's too reactive and not focused. If you lock a city down because of a large outbreak in a factory , then clearly you can see what the issue is, yet the whole city suffers the concequences?

If there are large spikes at factories/warehouses etc then that won't go away, no matter how many people aren't allowed to visit family.

Honestly don't think there's a way around that. I don't think it's perceived as racist to tackle the problem head on as such, it's just that the net result would be an increase in racism if they did.

What I mean is if the government came out and bluntly said Asian communities are the problem, there'd be racial hatred immediately. It's singling out. Even if true, not a price worth paying.

It's different from, say, blaming China for COVID-19, because you're blaming a government and the practices they've put in place - it is basically a provable, undeniable fact that China was responsible. If you blame the Asian communities here, you do so with little empirical evidence, and it achieves very little in a practical sense.
 
As @Tubey said above its now racist to tackle the issue head on and you have to lock everything down rather than single out people based on culture, even if that's the cause.

Best case scenario is that it doesn't generate hate within communities if , like yourself have said you know what areas are affected to inflict a blanket punishment.

Personally I see the issue now is that it's too reactive and not focused. If you lock a city down because of a large outbreak in a factory , then clearly you can see what the issue is, yet the whole city suffers the concequences?

If there are large spikes at factories/warehouses etc then that won't go away, no matter how many people aren't allowed to visit family.
So maybe that's what the government have done then? If the virus is hitting the Asian communities because they are having big home gatherings, then the governments measures of keeping pubs open but restricting home gatherings make sense don't they?
 
So maybe that's what the government have done then? If the virus is hitting the Asian communities because they are having big home gatherings, then the governments measures of keeping pubs open but restricting home gatherings make sense don't they?

Absolutely. I think the government have done the right thing - indeed, in many ways the only thing they could have done.

Of course the locations locked down leaves a massive elephant in the room that they haven't addressed, but they're probably correct not to do so.

As long as the government is acting on legit data over this, we don't have to know the demographics - it's irrelevant. We can naturally speculate, sure, but we don't need it confirmed because of the damage it would cause and the fact knowing it wouldn't change the situation one iota.
 
We need to learn how to do things sensibly and at a distance. Bringing back restrictions is short-sighted and short-termism. People are getting fed up and that was inevitable.

We need the messaging to be about keeping your distance, not staying at home. People have become complacent and irresponsible. There are still plenty of things we can do sensibly and without too much infringement on our liberties. We just need to be much more responsible.

Your forgetting that Johnson is Prime Minister and now your asking the same electorate to be responsible, I'm not following this logic!
 
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