Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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At Asda you have to wear a mask, at Asda you will get stopped (or at least in mine) if you're not adhering to social distance rules, at Asda things are disinfected constantly, at Asda there is free hand sanitiser EVERYWHERE for people to use, at Asda you will be in there like 30-60 minutes tops and constantly on the move.
At home you don't wear a mask, at home no one will stop you from ignoring social distancing, at home people disinfect when they remember/can be bothered, at home you are in there for hours, at home people have parties and get drunk and hug & kiss & forget the virus is a thing.
Why are you struggling so much with this?
You've also just admitted you only keep a 'slight distance' indoors with family. Is slight sitting/standing 2m away from everyone in there? Did you wear a mask?
Tea_drinker
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Both his face and his comments.
Catfish Blues
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Is the suggestion racial or cultural though?
I've not read through, just skimmed the last page but there are cultural differences to how families cohabit between cultures. I personally think the western/UK culture of putting parents in old people's homes is terrible. Having generations living together has many benefits but in this scenario increased numbers under one roof is associated with unfortunate risks.
I may have picked up the wrong end of the stick on the disagreement here
The bit in bold is spot on.
We live in an area, which, though predominately white , has quite a large Asian community as well.
There's generally far more of an extended family community amongst our Asian neighbours than we ( and other white families ) have, were, as well as sometimes having three generation households, cousins, aunts and uncles will pop round for support and company. The same thing was common in our family when I was a nipper when our extended family was pretty much all local, but, because our family is all over the country now, our kids didn't grow up in that environment. I've often thought, as a family, we've lost something because of that, something which most Asian families still have. But it does probably mean they're getting hit harder by COVID.
It is because it's assigning blame for actions when he has no direct evidence of it. I see no evidence at all that Asian communities are following the rules less than any other ethnic group are, for example, so that MP clearly couldn't wait to jump on a bandwagon and express his personal bigotry at the first opportunity here.
But... if it is true that it's hitting those communities first and foremost (Andy Burnham noting the issue with multi-generational families for example), then something has to be done about it surely?
What that "something" is... god knows. Because if you call Asian communities out on it you are inciting hatred, regardless of the reasoning given, because too many braindead people will taken advantage and victimise ethnic minorities due to it. But if you do nothing then... well, you're doing nothing.
So on balance I think the government has done the right thing by locking down all areas and not giving out the exact demographic reasons as to why. I can't think of an alternative to it tbh.
coollino
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All of them?
The issue with supermarkets compared to homes is the sheer number of different people visiting that enclosed space. In a home, you have, say, five or six people where they could be coughing stuff out - in a supermarket you have hundreds, and the virus hangs in the air for quite some time.
I wouldn't say one is more of a risk than the other personally; I just think they present different risks. I think you're more likely to catch the virus at home if someone has it, but you're more likely to encounter someone who has it at a supermarket.
Kenshin
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Because it doesn't make sense to most people. Again amazing that people pick and choose what they want to be logical from the government or what they massively disagree with and call illogical. Noone was happy they were told to go out 2-3 months ago but fine to follow that logic?
What if there is a reason for all these spikes and increased numbers? What if by applying this sort of logic you are ignoring potentially the reasons for the spike?
One reason was discussed last night in here. Which in current climate makes it racist to talk about now. That part I'm not going further into
But what if the issue is businesses, not households? Instead of popping round for a cup of tea as this logic implies , it's the workplaces that are an issue? The spike in leiscter was workplace based, there is a story today that there is around 80 odd cases in an Iceland distribution centre as well.
What if the issue is that by rushing so many people back to work , companies cannot apply social distance rules to its workers , or choose not to? I know from my own experience we haven't been able to properly socially distance in our office because we physically cannot do it. Over the next week we are expecting anywhere between 6-7 staff back from shielding which then ends any chance of social distancing.
Given that no shop staff I have seen in the last week had masks on as well.
What if this flawed logic I mention that you massively disagree with is right? That the issue is with the business aspect that is still perfectly fine to use / visit? That stopping people visiting households makes no sense because workplaces all over the country are spreading the virus between themselves because they can't work from home and there just isn't the space available to keep it going with everyone back?
I mean , does that then make sense to you? You can't visit family in Manchester anymore but working in a factory where the virus is spreading evidently is still fine?
arminisgod
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Not gone down well at all last night's news in this area. In fact everyone has just said they can do one.
Quite a lot of anger aimed at the council. All the affected areas here are the Muslim areas. Not racist to say that it's a fact. The council have been aware of that for 2 weeks and seem to have done nothing about it
Quite a lot of anger aimed at the council. All the affected areas here are the Muslim areas. Not racist to say that it's a fact. The council have been aware of that for 2 weeks and seem to have done nothing about it
Blues Harp
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Only a matter of time before Hancock's area of "expertise" is rebranded as the Department of Death.
What’s a Muslim area?
You have areas where’s it’s just strictly Muslims and no one else?
arminisgod
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Yeah pretty much. Burnleys only covid hotspot is daneshouse. 91% Asian population.
And all the other areas are completely fine?
Knowsley is the hotspot here and it has very, very few minorities.
Tea_drinker
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Like football in the yard at school. About 200 people legging it after the ball.
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