Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I mean I suspect we have had our summer, those 3 days we had in June.

But on the off chance that we see the sun again, there could be lots of localised outbreaks sadly.

Thats quite likely. But with the overall level of infections currently pretty low, any outbreaks wont spread wider, which is what we saw in Leicester, Barnsley, and Weston Super Mare. I guess an analogy would be a brawl in a pub affecting everyone in that pub, but its easy to contain the fight to the one pub, and maybe the car park.

Like you allude to, Brazil and Merica are still in their surge patterns; millions are infected, the easy wins on containment (masks and social distancing) are patchy, at best, so they will continue to surge till someone has the stones to do sommet.

I dont put much of our position at the brilliance of the Government btw, but firmly at the feet of the vast majority of the population of the UK.
 
All settings - 40 is the total, as shown on trackers as the DHSC haven’t published it due to the pending inquiry into how PHE have logged deaths by causes. This figure is 74 down on yesterday and 108 down on last Saturday and brings the 7 day rolling average down to 67.86 with the earlier hospital figure bringing that average down under 20 to 18.57
So as you intimated yesterday, is the combined figure for yesterday and today, lower than the combined figure for last Friday and Saturday. ?
 
Thats quite likely. But with the overall level of infections currently pretty low, any outbreaks wont spread wider, which is what we saw in Leicester, Barnsley, and Weston Super Mare. I guess an analogy would be a brawl in a pub affecting everyone in that pub, but its easy to contain the fight to the one pub, and maybe the car park.

Like you allude to, Brazil and Merica are still in their surge patterns; millions are infected, the easy wins on containment (masks and social distancing) are patchy, at best, so they will continue to surge till someone has the stones to do sommet.

I dont put much of our position at the brilliance of the Government btw, but firmly at the feet of the vast majority of the population of the UK.

Well from what I've seen personally so far we have been very lucky.

As I said, round here social distancing stopped weeks ago.
 
Well from what I've seen personally so far we have been very lucky.

As I said, round here social distancing stopped weeks ago.

Complete opposite here. Granted, its a medium sized town rather than a city, and I can choose when I go shopping, unlike many. So maybe at busier times it aint as good as when I go. And havnt been on public transport for years anyrate, so no idea how that is working.
 
Ive got no issue with @Megatron on a personal level, I like the boy, I do question the way he presents the figures a little from time to time.

Its a forum mate, I'm allowed to question what is presented.

I don't follow the numbers religiously as I did and his is probably my only source regarding them now, so I was curious as to why we saw such a big increase, he replied and that was that.

If @Megatron feels as I'm stalking him or being an arse, I'm sorry, it was not my intention.

We’re all good GoatFrand, I’m not the most clued up on how the figures are recorded tbh, I literally paraphrase it from the guy I get the data from on Twitter.
 
Ive got no issue with @Megatron on a personal level, I like the boy, I do question the way he presents the figures a little from time to time.

Its a forum mate, I'm allowed to question what is presented.

I don't follow the numbers religiously as I did and his is probably my only source regarding them now, so I was curious as to why we saw such a big increase, he replied and that was that.

If @Megatron feels as I'm stalking him or being an arse, I'm sorry, it was not my intention.
Fair enough.

For what it is worth I agree with you that the death figures are coming down slower than i would like. But they are reducing nonetheless. The number of hospital deaths will pretty much end soon, but I still think there's a problem with care homes, albeit a much smaller one than earlier in the year.

The figures you should be focusing on, in my opinion, are the new infections. They'll be the first to tell us if there is an upsurge in cases following the various actions in unlocking the economy, or the numerous, shall we say misdemeanours, of certain members of our community.

Up until now, that doesn't appear to be the case, amazing as it may seem. We probably won't start to see the effects of pubs and restaurants opening until next week at the earliest, but overall infection rates seem to have been falling steadily, albeit the curve may be flattening out over the last few weeks.

Over the last 7 days, the numbers testing positive have increased slightly which is a bit concerning, but the amount of testing has gone up a bit too. Something that has gone completely unnoticed is that we have now carried out more tests per head of population than any other country, and by a considerable margin. Much of the tier 1 testing is repetitive testing on our health and care staff. But most of our tests are now tier 2 community tests carried out as part of our test and trace. If you look at the latest figures from the ONS survey, they estimate that 1700 a day are currently being infected in the UK. Well approximately 600 of these are being picked up from testing, which is about 35%. About a month ago that figure was less than 20%. So although those testing positive are increasing, it doesn't automatically follow that the level of infection is increasing, just that we're catching more of them through test and trace.

For instance they are going door to door around parts of Leicester at the moment carrying out tests, and that's going to pick up a lot of people who are asymptomatic. Same with mini outbreaks such as the Herefordshire farm and the Welsh food processing plant.

Anyway fingers crossed the infection levels don't spike over the next few weeks. I think we can expect lots of localised outbreaks but I also think we have the testing capacity now to cope with that. The important thing is to keep the R at or around 1 or lower. There was an Oxford University survey that caught the headlines recently that said that we could expect a further 100,000 covid deaths over the next 12 months. That was based on a worse case scenario of R reaching 1.7. What the headlines didn't say was if the R reached 1.1 the expected death rate would drop to 3500 over the same period, which is a lot lower than our current daily death rate.
 
Last minute?

Are you going to Polzeath or somewhere different


Landed in Polzeath a couple of hours ago mate. The journey down was a dream compared to normal, with a bit of a hold up at Bristol and that was it.

The beach is busy, but looks like people are driving in and not staying, as the campsites aren’t even half full.
Everyone behaving themselves.

It’s great to be here regardless of the amount of MURDERERS on the beach.
 
Something that has gone completely unnoticed is that we have now carried out more tests per head of population than any other country, and by a considerable margin. Much of the tier 1 testing is repetitive testing on our health and care staff

Sorry mate, I'd agree with pretty much everything else you said, but both of those statements are wrong, admittedly one of them is only a bit wrong, but it's still wrong.

Denmark are testing more per head of popuation than we are, as are Luxembourg for that matter but, to be fair, Luxembourg don't really count. We are testing more per head than the likes of Germany, France, Italy and Spain, but you can't just ignore Denmark.

The pillar one tests are being carried out on everyone being admitted to hospital as an inpatient, and also, pretty much everyone admitted as a day patient who's going in for minor surgery ( I know this from personal experience from going in for a biopsy the other day ). A lot of the tests will be on staff, but I'm pretty sure the majority are on patients.

There's a fair amount of staff antibody testing going on, but that's pillar three, not pillar one.
 
Landed in Polzeath a couple of hours ago mate. The journey down was a dream compared to normal, with a bit of a hold up at Bristol and that was it.

The beach is busy, but looks like people are driving in and not staying, as the campsites aren’t even half full.
Everyone behaving themselves.

It’s great to be here regardless of the amount of MURDERERS on the beach.
Weathers looking good. Sea nice and warm but watch out for the jelly fish
 
Sorry mate, I'd agree with pretty much everything else you said, but both of those statements are wrong, admittedly one of them is only a bit wrong, but it's still wrong.

Denmark are testing more per head of popuation than we are, as are Luxembourg for that matter but, to be fair, Luxembourg don't really count. We are testing more per head than the likes of Germany, France, Italy and Spain, but you can't just ignore Denmark.

The pillar one tests are being carried out on everyone being admitted to hospital as an inpatient, and also, pretty much everyone admitted as a day patient who's going in for minor surgery ( I know this from personal experience from going in for a biopsy the other day ). A lot of the tests will be on staff, but I'm pretty sure the majority are on patients.

There's a fair amount of staff antibody testing going on, but that's pillar three, not pillar one.
Yeah. I must have missed Denmark mate. I also missed the UAE who have also tested more percentage of their population. The other mini-states like Luxembourg, Monaco, and Falkland Islands I just discounted. I got my info from the Worldometer site and Denmark was so far down the list I think I probably actually stopped looking. My point still stands though. Our testing per head of population is prolific and I don't think that many on here appreciate that.

The point I was making as regards pillar 1 was that I was acknowledging that a large number of tests undertaken had been duplicate tests on medical staff, so whilst we may have carried out 13,165, 651 it doesn't follow that 13,165,651 people have been tested. Having said that I would have thought quite a few pillar 1 tests would still be getting carried out on frontline medical/care staff who have not yet tested positive for the virus. In fact I'd go as far as saying that it would be downright negligent if those people weren't being regularly tested.
 
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