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The English hobby of drinking is a very expensive one.
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not moaning mate hence why I used the phrase “if you can afford it “ . I’ve tried to not pontificate about it . It’s just about decisions isn’t it and we’re all entitled to make them But if you want to balance other things in there and more importantly you can afford to do so then it’s reasonable as well isn’t it ?
the point I was trying to make before was presumable you’re aware if everyone did that the independent pubs would go out if business and all their staff would lose their jobs . It’s the mirror image of your earlier point.
Barnfred 55
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I'm glad you made this post as it leads into what I was going to say in response to your earlier post.
As you can see there is a big difference in prices down here depending on where you drink. Unlike most cities, Cornwall has mainly independent pubs, or are linked to local breweries of which there are many. They tend to be more expensive and 2 pints of decent lager will cost between £9 and £10.50. Wetherspoons and other chain names are the minority and tend to be only found in largish town centres such as Truro, Falmouth, Redruth and Penzance, but they are much cheaper as you saw from my example.
Personally, I tend to go to the independent pubs because they are usually in much nicer surroundings (countryside/coastal/harbourside). But I'm fortunate to have the budget to make that choice, plus after 4 pints of the strong stuff I'm ready for my bed so the difference in cost is not earth shattering. Also, due to the virus I feel much more comfortable drinking outdoors, and town centre pubs tend not to have that luxury.
However, not everybody has the same budget I have, and their decision making will be driven by cost. Others will be driven by where their friends are. The other night when I went to Wetherspoons, it was actually the only pub open out of 5 in the town square where we had ordered our Indian takeaway, so I had a choice of going there or not having a drink. TBH, if it wasn't half empty I wouldn't have gone in anyway. The first pub we tried was one we went into shortly before shutdown. It's owned by two gays and we had a really good chat to them that night so we knew that they were already struggling due to the crap weather experienced down here over the winter. It looked open because the light was on, but it was just the two guys getting ready to open later in the summer once they'd reorganised for SD. But we wanted to give them the business because they needed it.
I know from previous posting that you seriously dislike this Martin guy, which is far enough. I doubt very much he's the sort of guy you'd want to have a pint with that's for certain. But as regards this pandemic, as a business man I don't think he's done anything that many other multi millionaire businessmen have done. Business's like Virgin and Ryan Air spring to mind immediately, but I'm sure there are probably hundreds of others when you look into it. Are you going to treat them the same?
What I'm trying to say is that people have the right to choose who to give their business to based on their own circumstances. I don't think your post respected that right. But I have absolutely no problem with you boycotting Wetherspoons yourself.
Disagree. Where you went wrong also is that I’m not trying to prove anything, I’m sharing my opinion, it’s fine if you have a different one.
To be honest mate your trying to make a public health argument based on shopping receipts and even at that I’m not sure you are correct
My better half is a senior executive in a big multi national high street retailer on the merch side across Europe, Asia and the Stares their sales internationally are up 20% on June/July 19, (so far) is going to be their busiest month of 20 based on weekly trade reports including the first three months of the year. They can’t get stock bought in and shipped quick enough to fill stores for this season and Autumn and winter, demand is out the door. Obviously that’s not universal for every company and I’m sorry if your having a hard time.
To be honest mate you keep posting stuff but all you've posted is your opinion really, with talk of facts but without them.That’s fine to, we can’t all agree.
As I’ve said I tried to edit my post and I certainly re read what I’d posted . I don’t dislike him that much I dislike the principle that companies big and small , with the money , looked to not pay staff until the furlough money came through or until public pressure caused a shift in their policy or even it was necessary were completely dismissive of the concerns of others .
I totally understand why business decisions have to be made And I think weatherspoons is a brilliant business model and frankly if you want to know what’s coming ,ie when the pubs are opening post lockdown or what the legal requirements are going to be see that they’re doing because they’re ahead of the game .
for me , for example , it’s a wider question on pubs . You’ve got a choice where to go and in many cases you’re going to have to remain because at busier times going from pub to pub is probably longer viable . So I’d hope , if people can afford it , places with better service , better staff and providing a better overall product might and I get a better crack .
I think it’s going to be a challenging but interesting time.
In reality we don’t know where this country in going to be with this crisis in 4 weeks never mind 4 months . The Survival of hospitality trade and the high street might be a moot point if we see the kind of ‘second wave ‘ or ‘extended first wave ‘ many on here are predicting.
its interesting isn’t it . I think many suspected , in the U.K. at least , we’d see a increase in spending now as people are out and about , many have saved cash and we haven’t yet seen the large scale redundancies that seem inevitable. I think it’s likely we’ll see an increase , although anecdotally much if the high street still seems quiet , however long term I do think once reality bites it’ll be brutal .
BlueStevie35
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Hospital figures - 39 is the announced total for the day, up 17 on yesterday and down 8 on last Saturday. Of this 38 were in English hospitals, up 16 on yesterday and only 1 down on last week. The 7 day rolling average should drop under 30 despite this slight rise
Barnfred 55
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Diagnostic accuracy of serological tests for covid-19: systematic review and meta-analysis - the full paper for the geeks
As with everything SARS CoV-2 related, new data can change things and unfortunately due to the time it takes to do a systematic review/meta analysis, the data collected only goes through April. There have been some serological (antibodies) tests approved since then that might be better.
And note this is for diagnosis (ie current active infection) not recovered/prior infection
As with everything SARS CoV-2 related, new data can change things and unfortunately due to the time it takes to do a systematic review/meta analysis, the data collected only goes through April. There have been some serological (antibodies) tests approved since then that might be better.
And note this is for diagnosis (ie current active infection) not recovered/prior infection
BlueStevie35
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Big rise on the all settings figure for today, after yesterday’s low of 48, it rose 100 today to 148, it’s also up 81 on last Saturday and with it sees the 7 day rolling average rise to 85.71
The hospital average dropped slightly after the earlier announced figure to 29.43
The hospital average dropped slightly after the earlier announced figure to 29.43
And there's your 2 week lag from all the protests and everybody going the beach that everybody claimed wouldn't happen.
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Is that catch up counting, or down to reduced lock down?
BlueStevie35
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Not really, yesterday was unusually low for a Friday, today is unusually high for a Saturday. Combined the two totals are lower than at the same two days last week (136 and 67 respectively)
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