Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Whilst I agree with your sentiments, we have laws and a police force precisely because not everyone can be trusted to do the right thing.
Pubs should have been padlocked; ditto restaurants and other Covid19 incubators.

Asking a gang of kids (which is what adult Britons are after 40 years of neo-liberalism and 'the consumer revolution') to behave responsibly is like putting a bunch of banana's in front of a load of chimps and telling them they should wait until they're hungry to eat them.
 
Pubs should have been padlocked; ditto restaurants and other Covid19 incubators.

Asking a gang of kids (which is what adult Britons are after 40 years of neo-liberalism and 'the consumer revolution') to behave responsibly is like putting a bunch of banana's in front of a load of chimps and telling them they should wait until they're hungry to eat them.

Even though the majority of people did act responsibly and have done throughout this pandemic.
 
For sure, but equally, as an ostensibly liberal country, we're less draconian with those laws than elsewhere, which is ordinarily a good thing. For what it's worth, on our walk along the south bank yesterday, the few bars we passed didn't seem too bad, and the tea house we went to was fairly quiet. This was in the afternoon though. The police appear to have said things weren't too bad, so hopefully it's just isolated examples being shared on Twitter.
Well, yes, iirc a poll conducted in Friday returned 3pc would be out Saturday, with only another 3pc joining in leisure activities during the following week, and maybe a maximum of 10pc total within a month. So I think the public are being generally sensible, but the government has failed yet again to make it reasonably safe.
 
Well, yes, iirc a poll conducted in Friday returned 3pc would be out Saturday, with only another 3pc joining in leisure activities during the following week, and maybe a maximum of 10pc total within a month. So I think the public are being generally sensible, but the government has failed yet again to make it reasonably safe.

I can sympathise, as doing something vaguely resembling normal was just really nice, but I do wonder about the messaging. It's a fine line between scaring people from doing anything, and encouraging recklessness. To be honest, I'd have thought pubs would be the last places you could safely open, if only because they not only encourage less sensible behaviour than might ordinarily be the case, and also place strain on the emergency services. Is it really worth it? And I fully understand that there are pubs, such as probably Pete's, that are hubs of their community and don't suffer from the challenges of city centre pubs, but can you say some pubs can open and some can't?
 
I can sympathise, as doing something vaguely resembling normal was just really nice, but I do wonder about the messaging. It's a fine line between scaring people from doing anything, and encouraging recklessness. To be honest, I'd have thought pubs would be the last places you could safely open, if only because they not only encourage less sensible behaviour than might ordinarily be the case, and also place strain on the emergency services. Is it really worth it? And I fully understand that there are pubs, such as probably Pete's, that are hubs of their community and don't suffer from the challenges of city centre pubs, but can you say some pubs can open and some can't?

I know a few Landlords who basically said that if behaviour deteriorated and the rules they have put in place ignored then they would call time and just close the place. Landlords have a duty of care both to their staff and their customers and no one would want to be, or be seen as, the cause of an outbreak. As you say, village type pubs will be no problem as they were never a problem before either. Town and City pubs need a close eye on them but that’s what the Police and Licensing Officers will be doing. The expected mayhem for Saturday didn’t appear to happen, which was a good start. Obviously if people get too drunk then distancing will go out of the window, but even if the pubs remained closed the people who do this would just get drunk in parks or ‘block parties’. At least in the pub there is a degree of control.....
 
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