Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[degsy]

R-number in Germany after a month of relaxation of lockdown and social distancing almost at 3.

In the light of that, any responsible government here should be turning away from relaxation of rules.

Back at the start of it all NSW & Vic decided it was impractical to close the internal border between them
Even allowing for cruiseship coque ups, they've both had the relative worst of it.
Neighbours Qld & SA, slammed shut to isolate them
Vic are now having a 2nd spike and NSW...maybe in light of lessons from elsewhere observed, are now contemplating shutting the border.
WA...and to an extent Qld...have said they don't give a toss what the PM says about how he'd like All borders asap, their borders will stay shut until NSW and Vic get their arses into gear.

 

[Brennan]

Do you mean the Robert Koch Institute?

The Robert Koch Institute (RKI) said on Saturday the R number jumped to 1.79 on Saturday and 2.88 on Sunday, far higher than what is needed to contain the outbreak over a longer period of time.
The institute attributed the rise to a number of local outbreaks that have been traced back to places with large numbers of people, such as meatpacking plants and logistics centres, as well as refugee shelters. Outbreaks have also been linked to church services and family parties.
“Since case numbers in Germany are generally low, these outbreaks have a relatively strong influence on the value of the reproduction number,” said the institute. “Further developments need to be monitored closely during the upcoming days, especially in regard to whether case numbers are increasing outside of outbreak contexts.”

Yeah, very reassuring.

Stop misrepresenting them.

Could you please point out what I misrepresented.

They have said in black and white that they do not expect a national outbreak.

Did you actually read what you quoted ? The R is being heavily influenced by local outbreaks...

Local outbreaks in Germany leads to jump in ‘R’ rate - but nationwide increase not predicted

The reproductive rate of the coronavirus disease in Germany has jumped from 1.79 on Saturday to 2.88 on Sunday, but experts are not...

www.theneweuropean.co.uk

 

[degsy]

Australia are allowing sports stadiums to house fans again which would set an example to the rest of us. Their rate of infection is a lot lower mind due.

10% up to 40,000.
But that might get put on hold unless Victoria and Melbourne in particular (which basically Is Victoria) dont get a handle on the 2nd spike.

 

[davek]

Could you please point out what I misrepresented.

They have said in black and white that they do not expect a national outbreak.

Did you actually read what you quoted ? The R is being heavily influenced by local outbreaks...

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Local outbreaks in Germany leads to jump in ‘R’ rate - but nationwide increase not predicted

The reproductive rate of the coronavirus disease in Germany has jumped from 1.79 on Saturday to 2.88 on Sunday, but experts are not...

www.theneweuropean.co.uk

I will point out you're misrepresentation, yes. You failed to add their caveat that:

“Further developments need to be monitored closely during the upcoming days, especially in regard to whether case numbers are increasing outside of outbreak contexts.”

If you're going to cite a source as authoritative, at least provide ALL that they say, not just the part you select to back up your own position from that one journal.

They are not as complacent as you thought you'd make them out to be. They are vigilant.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Two metres down to one metre.
That's just normal then isn't it?
I mean, I don't get closer than that to the wife and certainly not to any of the types in the pub.

Get in! That means I can start smelling peoples hair in front of me in queues again.

 

[Dixieslaces]

Get in! That means I can start smelling peoples hair in front of me in queues again.

You related to Joe Biden

 

[degsy]

I think that many governments, having riden out the 1st wave(?) not to mention put the scary bejebus into the population - many of whom will be wary of any sort of pre-covid style contact.
With this in mind I fear that Governments will take a chance to get back to 'normal' asap and elect to ride out the smaller(?) 2nd wave.

 

[peteblue]

The frightening thing is what is going on in the rest of the world. South America have daily infection rates that continue to grow by the day, ditto in India, Pakistan etc. They are not yet at their peaks and then have the the whole of the downward slope to contend with. This thing is not going away anytime soon.....

 

[Brennan]

I will point out you're misrepresentation, yes. You failed to add their caveat that:

“Further developments need to be monitored closely during the upcoming days, especially in regard to whether case numbers are increasing outside of outbreak contexts.”

If you're going to cite a source as authoritative, at least provide ALL that they say, not just the part you select to back up your own position from that one journal.

They are not as complacent as you thought you'd make them out to be. They are vigilant.

Classic straw man.

Nowhere did I argue they were complacent.

Not being concerned =/= a synonym for being complacent.

You implied the 2.8 R was a sign of a forthcoming second wave in the UK, there is no scientific basis for your comments. As usual.

You are misrepresenting the views of other posters and external information. Again.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

You related to Joe Biden

Ahhh good old uncle Joe. lol

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Hopefully people will not arse about with the flu vaccine this autumn

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/flu-vaccinations-will-matter-even-pandemic/

 

[Brennan]

The frightening thing is what is going on in the rest of the world. South America have daily infection rates that continue to grow by the day, ditto in India, Pakistan etc. They are not yet at their peaks and then have the the whole of the downward slope to contend with. This thing is not going away anytime soon.....

And yet you have people declaring the worlds end because we are experiencing double digit deaths per day...

Bizarre

 

[Jebus_lives]

The frightening thing is what is going on in the rest of the world. South America have daily infection rates that continue to grow by the day, ditto in India, Pakistan etc. They are not yet at their peaks and then have the the whole of the downward slope to contend with. This thing is not going away anytime soon.....

No it's not.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

And yet you have people declaring the worlds end because we are experiencing double digit deaths per day...

Bizarre

Given our status in the world, G7 nation and all that supposedly entails. It's pretty disgusting.

 

[peteblue]

Hopefully people will not arse about with the flu vaccine this autumn

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/flu-vaccinations-will-matter-even-pandemic/

The government could take £20 out of every employees pay packet as a yearly one off payment for their jab. People would take it up if the know they’ve paid for it.......