Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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MarcelsGoat said:
Who is covered by the new arrangements?

Adults living alone or single parents with children under the age of 18.

What about vulnerable people who are shielding ?

Officials say it is too soon for them to be able to join support bubbles.

I'm a grandparent and I live with my spouse, can I see my grandchildren?

Sadly no. The support bubble must contain one person who lives alone.

What about parents who are separated but who currently share childcare between households?

That will continue. If parents are the only adult in the household they can form a bubble with another household.

What happens if someone in a bubble develops coronavirus symptoms?

All members of both households in the bubble must self-isolate for 14 days.

Can households form more than one bubble?

No. Arrangements must be exclusive with no switching of bubble partners.

Will people have to formally register these bubble arrangements?

No, it will be taken on trust.





Not quite sure I've read anything so stupid in my entire life.
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I got to hug my mum today for the first time in 3 months which was lovely.
 
peteblue said:
“One in five hospital patients with coronavirus caught it while on wards, papers by Government scientists have revealed.”........
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I'll tag @COYBL25 with this. It's the mate I was telling you about earlier in the week who I now keep in regular contact with.

He's an only child, lives on his own and is really worried about his aging mother, 86, who also lives on her own. Me and the missus reckon his old mum is in the early stages of dementia (we've both been through it with our parents) but he's a little bit in denial about that. He's a bit of a loner, doesn't work anymore and doesn't have a lot of close friends or family. So we keep in regular contact with him by phone as we know he's really concerned about his mum with this pandemic going on.

His mother is one of 4 sisters. One of them was in hospital in late February for a hip operation. Whilst she was in there she caught pneumonia and died. In early April, the daughter of the aunt who died (my mates cousin) was also in hospital for an unrelated condition and also died after having caught the covid virus in hospital. Next time I phoned him would have been around the third week in May. He told me that a week earlier he had a phone call from another cousin, saying that another of the aunties had passed away in a care home the previous night, having caught covid19. So he had to tell his mum that another of her sisters had died. He said his mum was expecting it to be her other sister who had been very poorly in hospital, and was shocked when she found out which one had died. The very next day the same cousin phoned him again, and my mate expected it to be about the aunt who had died the previous day. She was the daughter of the aunt who had been ill in hospital for a while. She was phoning to say the hospital had been on to say that her mum had died overnight. She had tested positive for covid19 and had deteriorated very quickly.

So my mate had to tell his mum that she had lost 2 sisters in 2 days to the virus, having previously lost a niece and possibly a third sister to the same virus in the previous 2 months. Totally unbelievable, but it happened.

The thing is, there must be plenty of examples like this going on around the country that you don't get to hear about. His mum can't even go to the funerals because she's vulnerable herself. The fact that they are limited to 10 people is probably a good thing because it gives them an excuse not to go, but even that sounds awful as I'm writing it. My mate is totally obsessed with isolation and distancing now as you'd understand. He only goes out to shop for food etc and to deliver food and check on his mum. But he won't break SD rules, not even to give his old mum a hug to comfort her.

Either me or the missus phone him once a week now and I encourage another mate to do similar. You and I are talking on here about going away for weekends and looking forward to pubs reopening, but for some people it will take months or longer to get over this.
 
davek said:
Yes, they did a fine job, as did Portugal etc.

Proper countries that have governments that do what they're supposed to do first and foremost: secure the population.

I wish we had one.
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All's it took was a plan ie: tighter lockdown,fines and that the police knew what they could enforce.That blithering idiot over there is just making things up as he goes along.
 
gwladysnight said:
Why do you think a Tory government is seeking to cover this up. It isn't about race it is about deprivation. The reason BAME people are dying at a higher rate is because of deprivation. Forget COVID-19 BAME people were dying at a higher rate before the pandemic.

Independent reports have shown that Tory austerity has killed 130,000 people. We ignore that and focus on a once in a lifetime pandemic.
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There's been a study by PHE where they accounted for socio economic differences and job type and the difference exists. People with darker skin are more likely to become seriously ill and have a higher mortality rate than lighter skinned people with all things being equal.

Most likely reason is that people with darker skin can't produce as much vitamin D as people with lighter skin.

Vitamin D is known to decrease the chances of respiratory infection and boost the immune system, which lowers the chances of a cytokine storm. Around 42% of people in the US are deficient in Vitamin D.

There has been no double blind study to test the reality but studies have shown there is a huge correlation between vitamin D deficiency and becoming seriously ill, dying from Covid.

Correlation doesn't prove causation but when the figures are so striking there's a good chance it's the reason why.
 
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Barnfred 55 said:
I'll tag @COYBL25 with this. It's the mate I was telling you about earlier in the week who I now keep in regular contact with.

He's an only child, lives on his own and is really worried about his aging mother, 86, who also lives on her own. Me and the missus reckon his old mum is in the early stages of dementia (we've both been through it with our parents) but he's a little bit in denial about that. He's a bit of a loner, doesn't work anymore and doesn't have a lot of close friends or family. So we keep in regular contact with him by phone as we know he's really concerned about his mum with this pandemic going on.

His mother is one of 4 sisters. One of them was in hospital in late February for a hip operation. Whilst she was in there she caught pneumonia and died. In early April, the daughter of the aunt who died (my mates cousin) was also in hospital for an unrelated condition and also died after having caught the covid virus in hospital. Next time I phoned him would have been around the third week in May. He told me that a week earlier he had a phone call from another cousin, saying that another of the aunties had passed away in a care home the previous night, having caught covid19. So he had to tell his mum that another of her sisters had died. He said his mum was expecting it to be her other sister who had been very poorly in hospital, and was shocked when she found out which one had died. The very next day the same cousin phoned him again, and my mate expected it to be about the aunt who had died the previous day. She was the daughter of the aunt who had been ill in hospital for a while. She was phoning to say the hospital had been on to say that her mum had died overnight. She had tested positive for covid19 and had deteriorated very quickly.

So my mate had to tell his mum that she had lost 2 sisters in 2 days to the virus, having previously lost a niece and possibly a third sister to the same virus in the previous 2 months. Totally unbelievable, but it happened.

The thing is, there must be plenty of examples like this going on around the country that you don't get to hear about. His mum can't even go to the funerals because she's vulnerable herself. The fact that they are limited to 10 people is probably a good thing because it gives them an excuse not to go, but even that sounds awful as I'm writing it. My mate is totally obsessed with isolation and distancing now as you'd understand. He only goes out to shop for food etc and to deliver food and check on his mum. But he won't break SD rules, not even to give his old mum a hug to comfort her.

Either me or the missus phone him once a week now and I encourage another mate to do similar. You and I are talking on here about going away for weekends and looking forward to pubs reopening, but for some people it will take months or longer to get over this.
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Heartbreaking......
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Yeah.

It was quite surreal. I was phoning to see how he and his mum were, and everybody around them were dying.

Where it fed into your thread was 2, possibly 3 caught the virus in hospital and 1 in the care home. It was a good standard home in St Helens too that they were paying a lot of money for
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Do you think it would help him to get in contact with bereavement services or someone who might be able to offer someone to chat to other than his friends - sometimes people feel the need to put on a brave face for friends.

I can send some links if it helps.
 
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