Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Goat]

Don't understand the point in publishing stuff like that now; doesn't help anyone.

Yeah, its pretty pointless to hold these tory murderers to account cos people are brainwashed by Maggie.

 

[BlueStevie35]

338 is the total death figure for the day, down 25 on yesterday, down 90 on last Thursday

7 day rolling average is down to 346.86 with the rolling hospital average down to a bit over 206

 

[Toast]

It's been great driving to and from work these last few weeks on a virtually empty motorway.
Saved me loads of time as well.
All cars and lorries are now seemingly back..

 

[tsubaki]

It‘s all part of the ‘let’s not point fingers of blame’ but surely we can ‘nail the Tories with this one‘ routine......It’s like the arguments over numbers, they really don’t matter anymore but the left insist upon stating the highest possible number as if that somehow proves they were right about something...it doesn’t reverse a single death, it doesn’t save a single life, and they couldn’t give a damn about the number anyway as long as it’s a political stick.....

Yes Pete, a story in the Torygraph tweeted out by Jeremy Vine is part of the lefts assault on blah blah blah

 

[Barnfred 55]

I didn't say he is right wing in general (and main stream right wing stances are of course legitimate).

I said the notion that people are lounging around enjoying "free money" is right wing bile, in line with the shirkers narrative created by the Tories over many years. And I agree, it is there to divide us.

The irony that it is the "Tories" giving out this "free money" to "shirkers" seems completely lost on you. It is not the Tories who are currently spreading this bile and creating these divides, it is the people in the media and on social media, and in my opinion they need to rein it in. Starting Now.

I'm one of the very few on here who believes that politics shouldn't be playing a part in fighting this virus. It's a global crisis not evidenced since the last world war, and we need to work together to come through it. That includes being understanding of other people's feelings and worries, because not everybody is going to be affected by this in the same way.

I haven't any issues with mistakes being criticised, nor bad decisions being questioned. But some of the stuff on here goes well beyond that. Further down the line there will be a time for recriminations, but not now when we are in the middle of the crisis. At this stage we don't even know how long this crisis will last and whether they will ever find an effective vaccine.

Hopefully there will be a reckoning one day in the form of a thorough and independent inquest. Anybody who has acted outside the law should be prosecuted, and the same with anybody who is guilty of gross misconduct within their workplace. I would also hope that those who have performed their jobs badly within the various government institutions, and in that I include permanent as well as political positions, also face some sort of reparation. The main thing though is that we need to learn from the findings to ensure they never happen again.

We're a long long way from that point at the moment though, and all those that want to impose immediate recriminations are doing little more than hindering the already very difficult job of getting through this virus.

 

[Goat]

It‘s all part of the ‘let’s not point fingers of blame’ but surely we can ‘nail the Tories with this one‘ routine......It’s like the arguments over numbers, they really don’t matter anymore but the left insist upon stating the highest possible number as if that somehow proves they were right about something...it doesn’t reverse a single death, it doesn’t save a single life, and they couldn’t give a damn about the number anyway as long as it’s a political stick.....

A tory rat telling people they dont care about the dead.

You could not make that up.

 

[peteblue]

It's been great driving to and from work these last few weeks on a virtually empty motorway.
Saved me loads of time as well.
All cars and lorries are now seemingly back..

One of the greatest joys of being retired is not having to put up with packed roads and motorways.....

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Jebus_lives]

Don't understand the point in publishing stuff like that now; doesn't help anyone.

The point is to learn lessons and hopefully try to influence decision making in future.

 

[Nymzee]

Yeah, its pretty pointless to hold these tory murderers to account cos people are brainwashed by Maggie.

Sure after the virus dies down and the inquests go on but we're right in the middle of it so it's pointless to me.

 

[Nymzee]

The point is to learn lessons and hopefully try to influence decision making in future.

Yeh LFE but that's usually done after or almost after an event not smack down in the middle.

"If we'd have closed all airports in 1999 we would have had less COVID deaths." <<< as equally pointless a few months into a pandemic.

 

[Goat]

Sure after the virus dies down and the inquests go on but we're right in the middle of it so it's pointless to me.

Well the tory rats arent doing their job, so its not like we are distracting them.

 

[Barnfred 55]

338 is the total death figure for the day, down 25 on yesterday, down 90 on last Thursday

7 day rolling average is down to 346.86 with the rolling hospital average down to a bit over 206

If hospital deaths are up on yesterday, then the good news is that care home and community deaths must be down. It appears that we have finally managed to get a grip on the care home deaths situation which hopefully means they have managed to stop the spread to those care homes that have been so far unaffected. Fingers crossed that continues.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sure after the virus dies down and the inquests go on but we're right in the middle of it so it's pointless to me.

You should always use the best available evidence and learning to inform your decisions. It's helpful to know during an ongoing response if the thing you did at one point, which you may have to do again, was done as effectively as it could be.

People will make political points regardless of the circumstances

 

[Hickson9]

The word ‘overwhelmingly’ is not a precise number. I don’t give a damn what the number is, but I expect people working for my government to understand the difference between something being precise and something allowing for ambiguity. It was your quote not mine......

Ambiguity is about there being multiple ways of interpreting the data. The data is precise enough for there to be one interpretation according to the ONS.